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1920 Buffalo Nickel For Discussion

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 Posted 01/10/2024  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joe_77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all!


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The rim separation at the top of the reverse is extremely unusual


Would that be the line going parallel with the rim of the coin? Starts at the E of UNITED and ends almost at the F of FIVE?


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Photos in that orientation, don't help at all


Is there a particular way to shoot that will help you? Still learning how to best shoot coins!


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lamination peel at K2 below LIB


I was about to post a whole obverse in the skewed orientation, maybe this detail shows better the lamination peel? Beware: the haziness in the middle is due to photo stacking.

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A die clash is when.....


Thanks kbbpll for explaining !!
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Some more details for the obverse. To my unexperienced eyes I see a bulge under the chin (could be the die strike?) .. I also see a depression behind the neck? .. and a peel on the left of the braid? ......fascinating what can be seen under high magnification!.....

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Yes, multiple lamination peels

It almost looks like the start of a split planchet with that rim separation (where a layer of the planchet peels away)
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Thanks for the additional thoughts paralyse!

So, let me repeat the exercise I tired yesterday! This time going to pcgs.com, price guide puts a dollar amount between 20 and 35 (grade b/w 40 and 50).

I haven't completely understood if all the flaws we talked about (die strike, peeling) increase or are invariant (or even detrimental) to the value? Then there's the cleaning argument which will probably be detrimental.

What would you sell this coin for?

PS: disclaimer, I'm not selling it obviously, just going full circle!
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Regardless of the reason, the surfaces shown in the original pictures an unoriginal and unattractive.
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