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1921 $1 Peace Dollar #2

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$446. Thoughts? Thanks!

1921-$1-Peace-Dollar-#2
1921-$1-Peace-Dollar-#2
1921-$1-Peace-Dollar-#2
1921-$1-Peace-Dollar-#2
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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02/12/2024 2:53 pm
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Over the weekend I was mulling over which of the two 1921 Peace dollars (#1 and #2) I Iiked better. Although the hair wasn't as well struck, #1 had fewer hits. I decided on #1 but was still looking at this #2, which had a few more hits, but the hair was better struck up and was very pleasing to my eye. Seller gave me a discount and scooped this one up today. Let me know which one of the two you like better.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Nicer strike on this one but some big hits on the reverse. I can't get above MS-62 on this one.
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Agree with MS-62, nothng special. Low luster, scratches on hair, cheek and near obverse rim at 8:00. Can't understand the appeal.
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02/12/2024 6:52 pm
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For me, BU 1921 coins are not like common date Morgan dollars. It is also a one-year type coin with a high relief design. UNC examples of this date start at $500 for the lowest quality examples to more that $100k in the high end. This is not what a common date/grade coin sells for.

This coin has a hammer strike. Most 1921 Peace dollars do not have struck up hair. Below is a 1921 Peace dollar graded MS67 by PCGS. I don't think the coin below has a strike as strong as the coin in this thread. Wayne Miller said: "Fully struck 1921 Peace dollars are very rare and always command a premium." I believe that for a high relief coin, a strong, sharp strike is essential.

1921-$1-Peace-Dollar-#2

Finally I liked the coin for the attractive fields and cheek. The reverse luster is spectacular. The coin has several hits, but they are in the hair and between the lettering in the reverse, well hidden and not prominent nor distracting. As such, I think the coin has great eye appeal for the lower technical grade.

A great, uncommon strike, clean of hits where it counts and great luster. I loved it and that's what really counts.

I'm glad you decided to return to my threads to point out how much you dislike my choices. Welcome back!
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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I'll say MS-62 at best.
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This one does have a great strike. I am as MS-62, but I prefer the other one you posted more, even with the weaker strike.
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This is an unusually nice 1921. Sure looks better than 62 to me, but I admittedly know little about grading these HR coins. I have seen few with the center as fully struck. A beauty.

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I like the top coin. I think ms-63.
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This came in and really glad that I bit the bullet on this second one. Further thoughts? Thanks!

1921-$1-Peace-Dollar-#2
1921-$1-Peace-Dollar-#2
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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The flat luster on this one is an issue to me. I still can't get above MS-62. Lots of chatter in the reverse lettering and looks like some rub marks. I'm just not crazy about this one.
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Tough call here. If it's truly MS then I'd go 63. Luster loss might put it at 58.
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