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Post Your New Canadian Doubled Die Finds Listed In John O'connor's Guide

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 Posted 04/03/2025  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice DDR, chadcoins.
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 Posted 04/12/2025  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CCCS is still behind on doubled die varieties so its somewhat expected (to me anyway) as they lack the resources to accurately identify and attribute doubled die varieties.

The 1965 is a doubled 5, and the 2012 I have had the opportunity to examine first hand thanks to chadcoins and can confirm that it is a very impressive DDO.

With that said, PCGS, NGC and ICCS will attribute doubled die varieties listed by me, as long as references from my book are included for already published varieties, or a letter is included confirming a new variety written directly by me. CCCS doesn't have any references by me as of yet, so they are still behind.
Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018.

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 Posted 04/13/2025  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chadcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes CCCS is a good certification institution and yes we have to get them on board with the DDs varieties. I do have about 50 coins ready to go but hesitant now!! Good to know any new DDs varieties in the future have to go through John for proper attribution and documented.
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 Posted 04/13/2025  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In regards to the 1965 5 cent DDR with Lathe lines. Even getting a letter from John and submitting to ICCS it says on their form that they do not grade error coins. This mean to me that it may get a doubled die recognition but will never get the error recognition is this correct? Which grading Co. would?
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 Posted 04/13/2025  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chadcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent John a massive inventory of DDs to document with coins in hand and the 1965 was one of them.
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Cownick, you are correct ICCS doesn't certify errors, however, they will attribute varieties if they have proper documentation either from the Charlton, or some other forms of reputable resources.

Personally, I use PCGS for all of my doubled die varieties that I submit, since most of the world trusts the judgement of PCGS and other TPG's seem to follow in their footsteps, I went with them as Canada has some amazing doubled die varieties that deserve just as much attention as the US doubled die varieties do.

I don't use ICCS or NGC directly, but some of my readers do and they have had good success getting Canadian doubled die varieties attributed with my aid.

In the last couple years, I was entertaining the idea of opening my own attribution service for Canadian collectors but it did not seem ideal with all of the well known TPGs already on board with most of my documentations, but now with all the things going on in the world and collectors hesitant on sending errors/varieties across the border, I may revisit the idea if there is enough interest.
Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018.

2023 Recent Publications:
Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition
PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024)
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