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Bedrock of the Community
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As you say, the 1916 was simply plated for whatever reason and is not a fake.  to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
02/22/2024 08:33 am
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@cyb, those are a couple interesting picks out of the bag. At one time, it was somewhat common in high school science classes to coat copper cents with mercury. I'm not positive that this is what you've got there, but it is one possibility. Here is a link to a similar coin, along with the commentary that followed: http://goccf.com/t/339214"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Bedrock of the Community
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The 1916 is real, just plated. The 1943 has an altered date.
Errers and Varietys.
Edited by Errers and Varietys
02/22/2024 12:55 pm
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If the1943 was an altered date it would not have reacted to the magnet because it would have been copper/zinc. Am I correct about that? The coin flew off the desk to the magnet. I believe it is a steel cent.
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That seems like sound reasoning on the steel cent. Replating it with copper would not alter the magnetic characteristics of the iron.
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BTW, When I say "Fake" I am refering to the fact that a 1916 one cent was not minted in silver and this 1943 cent is not bronze or copper.
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Interesting coins you posted, I would have to agree that the '43 was re-plated and one way to know for sure is to scratch the edge a tiny bit to see if the steel shows through. As for the '16 - a science experiment sounds about right.
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The 16 looks more like it was painted. Soak it in acetone, see if anything happens.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 Your 1916 was plated - looks like it's been through a rough life and most of the plating is gone (or could have been mercury rubbed as they did back in the "good old days"  Too many to count 1943 steelies have been copper plated. |
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Was this a common practice trying to pass a cent as a dime? It was a common enough practice, or at least potential practice in the eyes of the government, for it to be broadly mentioned in anti-countefeiting laws: 18 USC 331 prohibits the "fraudulent altering" of a coin. It was perhaps a bigger problem in Canada, where the obverses of the cent and dime were identical, and Canadian law is much more explicit about prohibiting the altering of a coin to make it resemble a coin of higher denomination. While it is theoretically possible for a silver-plated copper coin to have been made non-fraudulently - my Dad long ago gave me an Australian 2 cent piece that he'd plated with zinc as a chemistry demonstration experiment - the vast majority of them will be fraudulent in some form: either "contemporary counterfeits" to try to pass them off as a dime in circulation, or "collector counterfeits" to try to pass them off as some kind of wrong-planchet mint error. Quote:
It obviously didn't fool everyone. It was buried in the pennies. A counterfeit - or in this case, a fraudulently altered coin - doesn't have to fool everybody all the time. It only needs to fool one person, once, and that's mission accomplished for the counterfeiter. Counterfeiters know little and care less about what their fakes and frauds might look like after a period of circulation; by then, they're already long-gone with their ill-gotten 9 cents profit. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Bedrock of the Community
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There is no reason to believe this coin was plated with an intention to defraud. We did this all the time as kids.
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The older candy machines read the diameter of a coin, not the weight to finalize the purchase. So plating a Lincoln Cent to be silver like a dime wouldn't serve much purpose. There were many times that cents were shaven down to the size of dimes though. |
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Quote:The older candy machines read the diameter of a coin, not the weight to finalize the purchase. So plating a Lincoln Cent to be silver like a dime wouldn't serve much purpose. If you were handing it over in a dimly lit store to a human storekeeper rather than a machine, there'd be a purpose. If the human noticed, you could just say "Oh, sorry, I didn't realise" and give them a proper dime instead - so you don't really lose. But if the human didn't notice, then you win. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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We did this all the time as kids. Ground them down then painted them to complete the look. |
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