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Hey all, This is my first ancient, can I get some feedback on the coin and the history? Composition....  
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Edited by livingwater 03/01/2024 9:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks, I'll go check out the links.
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Edited by livingwater 03/01/2024 9:33 pm
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Congratulations . You are now formally 'infected' You can now expect a range of typical symptoms Ranging from mild fevers to anxiety Particularly when waiting for the postman !
Interesting reverse type too Denarius of Gordian III with VENVS VICTRIX reverse Venus tends to be far less common subject than many others such as Fortuna or Concordia Minted in Rome circa AD 241 under the reign of Gordian III Gordian III was 'elevated' to the throne after the unsuccessful rebellion of his grandfather and uncle (Gordians I & II) against a particularly terrifying fellow named Maximinus Said by some ancient sources to have been over 8 ft tall !
Many ancient collectors tend to dislike the NGC slabs as we often get our thrills by 'fondling' our prizes But I do completely understand the desire to have someone independently give an opinion In fact I am preparing to send out 30 or 40 pieces myself to leave for my heirs !
I do wish the NGC labels recorded a bit more relevant information Like weight diameter year and attribution number Your coin is RIC 131 by the way You never forget your first one ! With some patience and a bit of luck you can expect to enjoy this new pastime for many years to come Patience is an important element ! Just because some 'comedian' might ask for hundreds of dollars for a nice ancient coin doesn't mean it is worth your time looking or even making an offer
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Thank you for the detailed information! I am a total newby on ancients so certified would be the only way for me to go now (and I'm not a TPG fan), but I really know nothing about these. I would like to get a gold Roman coin and a copper one also but don't believe I will be a more than that collector. I picked this one up as it had nice details, was fairly priced and had visual appeal. The slab just let me know that it was graded and reviewed by a 3rd party (confidence to buy).
Edited by hfjacinto 03/02/2024 10:52 am
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We all go into collecting ancients with some splendid ideas about what we want to acquire With 'Roman's' that usually means buying a Julius Caesar an Augustus a Trajan a Marcus Aurelius etc But reality often interferes with the best plans ! Roman gold can be quite pricey too . But if it fits in your budget more power too you ! But Roman gold is often faked so you definitely want to be careful about where you buy
Bronze fakes are not unknown either ! But if you shop around you might find a decent Nero or Caligula in copper for under $100 The real 'nasty' emperors are always popular with collectors And personally I feel the first century will always be number one ! But remember to always be patient There are literally millions of coins available to collect
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Quote: we often get our thrills by 'fondling' our prizes  Hilarious discription...of the truth!
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@fvrivis,
What about the Byzantine empire? Or earlier? I was checking out Byzantine gold and it's much less expensive compared to Roman? For the copper which do you recommend? I'm note a type collector so a nice looking copper coin is more important than a rare date one.
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Ancients are a splendid rabbit hole to dive into. I've sort of had an objective (like many others) to get one of each emperor with a good portrait. After about 300 CE the portraits started to become more stylized, not lifelike, so that I've got limited desire to fill in all the gaps with the rare later emperors.
If you do spend time in this rabbit hole, seek out some ancient coin dealers and make friends with them.
Edited by oriole 03/03/2024 6:16 pm
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Yes Byzantine gold is much more affordable than earlier Roman gold In fact I have only acquired one gold coin in nearly 50 years (my brother 'infected' me back in 1976 !) An AV solidus of emperor Justinian which I later sold off in a time of economic need First century silver can also be a bit pricey Nero reduced the purity to 90% which resulted in earlier silver getting recycled For copper or bronze coins I find emperor Vespasian usually gives the best quality for the money I have seen some fabulous portrait coins of Vespasian go for less than $100 Most folks want a Nero or Caligula but you do generally pay extra for the nasty guys
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Congratulations! 
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Edited by hfjacinto 03/04/2024 2:13 pm
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Unfortunately I am unable to view Message says 'network connection lost' But if you post a few pics here I would be only too happy to offer my "Obnoxious" opinion ! ebay has changed quite a bit in 25 years While there have always been charlatans ( present company excluded) Asking prices have become rather . problematic ?
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My personal opinion ?
The horror . the horror
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