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Can Anyone Help Me With This Roman Coin.

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 Posted 03/30/2006  6:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

I would know were to start attributing roman coins.

If anyone can help me if would greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Lars

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 Posted 03/30/2006  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add habiru001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well no offense intended- but to make an ID you need to be able to read the legends on the coin. From the portraiture- This guy has two possibilities- they were brothers- Crispus, or Constans What is the dimensions of the coin? That might help -The coin is a common type during the Imperial period of late 300 AD years- I would say- but that is as far as I can go. Even with portraiture, you still need to have legends. This coin must have some significance for you-? Habiru001--Knight of the Coin Table #28
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 Posted 03/31/2006  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you're after a general guide to attribution, I'd recommend the earlier, single-volume editions of the Sear catalogue. It's where I started out with identifying Roman. I wouldn't recommend the latest edition for a beginnner unless you were certain of your interest in Roman, as it's currently four hardcover volumes and counting (the fourth hasn't been released yet) and you have to pay for shipping hardcover books from Britain - they retail here in Oz for around AU$200 each!
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 Posted 03/31/2006  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ouch, I don't have a huge interest in Roman coins.

I like the wow factor they have and the history to them, I have about 10 of them and only 3 of them are unidentified and I don't think I want anymore.
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 Posted 04/01/2006  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heather the Hoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The legends look too corroded to read; I can't make out enough to get anywhere. From the style, it can be dated to c. 330-390. Crispus or Constans certainly are possibilities.

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 Posted 04/04/2006  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Thankyou for the info.

I have one in a better grade, can anyone help me on this one.

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The obverse legend starts out DN VALEN... before disappearing. There were a couple of emperors named Valens or Valentinian.

The reverse type is a soldier (presumably the Emperor) holding a labarum (a legionary standard with the Christian Chi-Ro symbol) and dragging a captive behind him. The legend is hard to read through the plastic, but the usual legend for the type is GLORIA ROMANORVM. Can't make out the mintmark at the bottom, either.

In the catalogue (Sear 3rd ed.), Valentinian I (364-375 AD, S#4002) and his brother Valens (364-378 AD, S#4017) both issued coins of this type.
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 Posted 04/04/2006  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thankyou for the help. Appreciate it.
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 Posted 04/06/2006  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by habiru001

well no offense intended- but to make an ID you need to be able to read the legends on the coin. From the portraiture- This guy has two possibilities- they were brothers- Crispus, or Constans What is the dimensions of the coin? That might help -The coin is a common type during the Imperial period of late 300 AD years- I would say- but that is as far as I can go. Even with portraiture, you still need to have legends. This coin must have some significance for you-? Habiru001--Knight of the Coin Table #28




How does one tell the denomination?

The three unidentified ones I have a much smaller then the other ones I have.

This coin has no real significance to me. I picked up three unidentified when I first started collecting. My interested moved elsewhere, but I still loved the history behind them so I bought a few identified coins. Well that was all before I found this forum.
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Can I please ask for help on my last unidentified one. The obverse looks the same as the others?

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Appreciate the help.
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The legend on that last one reads CONSTANS P F AVG, Emperor Constans (337 - 350 AD).

What denomination are they? For this time period, frankly, no-one knows. The catalogues just give them size labels: AE1, AE2, AE3 and AE4 are large, medium, small and tiny bronzes respectively. We have no record what the Romans actually called them, apart from "nummus" (Latin for "coin"). A coinage reform recorded as happening in 346 AD introduced a new coin denomination called a centenionalis.

If you post a pic of the other side, we can have a go at reading the mintmark.
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 Posted 04/07/2006  05:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't think they had denominations back then. I was under the impression it was size, weight and metal type.

Thankyou for the atribution, I will try for the reverse side of the last one.

Thanks again.
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 Posted 05/17/2006  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greekandromancoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Try using http://www.wildwinds.com or http://www.coinarchives.com. You can usually attribute most coins using either one of these and not having to resort to the expensive RIC.

--Peter
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