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Sketchy 1806 Half Penny

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 Posted 03/22/2024  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spyro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are two pics, one of my 1807 halfpenny, the other of my 1806 item. You can see why I thought it might be a forgery. I've used a squared background to show the relative sizes.
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 Posted 04/03/2024  03:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spyro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the info. I've now got hold of a copy of Richard Doty's Soho Mint book. It's keeping me very quiet! I'll see what the assay office and BMAG have in their collections next, and post something when I get back. I'm a bit busy at the moment so it'll be a week or two before I find anything else out...
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 Posted 04/04/2024  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes it seems to be the case that you need two budgets to collect: one for your coins and one for your books about coins.
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 Posted 04/04/2024  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well said!
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 Posted 04/05/2024  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spyro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too dam' right! Mind you, It's possible to get a bit back with the odd magazine article too.
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 Posted 04/14/2024  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spyro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well now. Went to Brum Coin Fair this morning in little old England and chatted to an expert, Dr D Symons (see Matthew Boulton And The Art Of Making Money) who pulled in a chap from what used to be Format Coins (alas now closed) and between them they decided that my strange-looking 1806 Soho halfpenny was indeed a contemporary forgery because the quality of the engraving and the strike were both pretty poor. Boulton would never have let a strike of that quality out of the factory (ref the disappearing reverse legend).Taylor, who bought a lot of Boulton's dies in the 19th century, was in the spurious collectibles market so this item would most likely have not passed muster even at his mint. So ladies and gentlemen, there we are, or do it seems. Glad I bought it as a forgery!
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 Posted 04/19/2024  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the update! I'm glad to see that the mystery has been brought to a successful (and indisputable) conclusion.

Well done, Spyro Holmes, Dr Watson would no doubt approve of your detective work

Contemporary forgeries of Soho halfpennies must be vanishingly scarce; I must admit I've never personally handled one. I'd keep that one well safe as it's quite an unique and interesting coin.
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 Posted 05/22/2024  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spyro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry about the long break. Went to West Mids Coin Fair in Brum and took it with me. 2 experts agreed it was a forgery. I just get the feeling the counterfeiter knew an issue was going to come out but didn't know what was happening to the price of copper so put his fake out based on the old size and "shot himself in the foot".
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