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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Curious what you all think of this one. I was leaning VF, but there are only three legible letters on the shield? This has been in an old cardboard folder for the last 40+ years, just took it out for pics.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The area of the field between Ms Liberty and the 10th, 11th, 12th and 13th stars is concerning to me. Almost looks like possible graffiti removal from long ago may have occurred.
Otherwise, F15 to VF30 depending on who grades it and what kind of day/night they had before showing up to the grading room.
I wouldn't be ashamed of it if it were mine.
Edited by westernsky
03/15/2024 12:59 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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being in a cardboard holder for that amount of time didnt help this one other than to allow some type of toning on top of a cleaning. could be the photos and lighting but the eye appeal is on the lower end.
i agree with westernsky on the right obv field marks. based on how deep they are, and I'm not seeing them crossing over the nearby devices, they be on the die or planchet prior to strike. since its not known I'm going to ignore that for the grade as it doesn't make much a difference as the coin probably gets a details designation regardless
F15 details (cleaned)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'll say F details (cleaned) as well. Left obverse fields looks iffy.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36841 Posts |
F-15 details, graffiti removed, cleaned.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11898 Posts |
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Would that be 15 straight, N/S?
Edited by Coinfrog
03/15/2024 4:38 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Difficult to tell based on the photos. The only area of concern for me is the right obverse field. It's not definitive and I like the overall look of the coin. Attractive to me. I think the coin's grade is actually higher but netted down some for the issue in the field. Better photos of that area would help to make a more informed decision.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
892 Posts |
I'll post up some additional pics later. I think what some of you are seeing on the obverse is what looks like to me an old finger/thumb print distorted by the toning.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'll say Fine for now, until additional photos are posted.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
892 Posts |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11898 Posts |
15 straight. Looks like a fingerprint. Some marks but not anywhere near details in my view. Nice coin.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2004 Posts |
I too am at F-15 details cleaned. Wouldn't be ashamed to have it in my collection for the right price.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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talk about photos making a difference. I now see the fingerprint vs anything else on the field. I don't think the small hits are going to details the coin.
I'm now calling it F15 straight
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'll have to go along with you.
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