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1878-P 7TF Morgan Dollar For Grading Thoughts

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Hello guys, I picked up this nice 1878 7TF Morgan which seems nice and if lucky I can get PL on it :-) I believe it's a solid 64, pls share your thoguhts and also the seller mentioned it could be a proof which I don't believe it is but share your thoughts on that as wll. Really appreciate all your inputs! Thanks a ton in advance!
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 Posted 03/26/2024  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this one might go MS-65PL.
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 Posted 03/26/2024  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add txgolfer56 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Difficult to assess given the lighting.
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 Posted 03/26/2024  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnhenry9009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say MS-64 PL
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 Posted 03/26/2024  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the reverse is quite week for this year/variety. it should be above average . poor photos. coin should be removed from holder to get better photos. no overhead lighting as it adds too much glare. the eagle in photo #3 is showing signs of circulation so this is why we need better photos to determine if the coin is AU or MS. the luster on the cheek cannot be assessed as well. we need a straight on shot of the obv and rev out of the holder

if you are using a phone you can try this

1. if coin is in holder, remove coin from holder if possible
2. turn off flash
3. place coin on flat surface with indirect natural light. maybe a window sill in a cloudy day. Use a black or white background to avoid any reflective color
4. move phone about 3in from coin
5. zoom in using your fingers until the coin comes into focus and fills the cameras view finder. if your phone has a portrait selection use that and then press and hold on the coin in the view finder to AF lock it
6. hold phone steady. if you can't then place something on either side of the coin (like books) at that distance and lay phone between them. this will hold it steady and allow you to zoom and take the photo without any blurring
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 Posted 03/26/2024  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the images are washed out, pass for now.
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We'll need better photos to accurately grade it.
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Apologies for the not so clear pictures... these are the seller pictures... Will post better pictures when I have the coin in hand. Thanks a lot!
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Would be a hard pass for me with those photos. Angled, terrible lighting, out of focus.

If I had to grade based on what I can see here, Unc Details-Cleaned, not PL.
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a lot of times coin photos are altered by angling the coin, lighting or even manipulating the photos after in order to hide what the actual coin looks like. I'm not saying thats the case here but just be wary buying raw coins that don't have decent photos to assess them. if they do have return privilege's then that adds little bit of security but then you are paying postage both ways

if you have time to purchase, I would suggest posting the photos here first. you'll get a good idea if the coin is worth it. it takes years of reviewing coins to assess a coin and knowing what to look for. I don't even know how much I lost when I first collecting. I see so many folks new to the hobby wasting so much $$ due to the coin being a details coin from cleaning or damage that they can't see and maybe worth half of what they paid.
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 Posted 03/28/2024  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the above concerns. I will add it is 100% not a proof.
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