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Israeli Police Find Ancient Coin

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Among the historically invaluable pieces found in the police raid was a partially cleaned silver shekel coin from 67 AD:

https://www.westernjournal.com/isra...tant-report/


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 Posted 04/07/2024  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does Israel really think that most people finding these coins/relics would hand them in without compensation. That would be pretty naive on their part. Unless they do compensate - but I'm not sure of that
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England is the only place I know of with a treasure law that compensates those who find things. The government will pay fair market value or the items get turned back to the finder/land owner. This has worked very well to preserve archaeology. People are willing to report finds/hoards so the find spot can be studied.

Most nations have laws requiring finds to be turned over to the government but they don't offer money. A lot of stuff is not reported, sold and/or smuggled out. International agreements have become more restrictive, banning imports of antiquities, fossils without proper provenance.

Looting, finding valuables in graves/tombs/ancient sites has been going on for thousands of years. Most of the pharaoh's tombs were looted long ago. If nations like Italy, Greece, Turkey, Egypt, etc. had a similar law like England there would be less looting/smuggling, but they don't budget or have the money. Same goes for South American native artifacts and other places around the world.

I think in the United States is it legal to find keep/sell artifacts/fossils found on private property, but not on state/national parks land.
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Israel's laws are less punitive than some other jurisdictions.

If you find an antiquity (defined in Israeli law as anything older than AD 1700), you are supposed to report it and have it examined. All such antiquities belong to the State. If the examiner determines the State doesn't really want or need it, the finder may be allowed to keep it. If they keep it, they are not allowed to sell it to someone else if neither the buyer nor seller has a permit (and it's my understanding that Israel hasn't issued a new antiquities trading permit in decades). So if you want to sell it, you're basically forced to sell to one of only a couple of dealers in Israel with the permit. Exporting them is of course also illegal without the permit, so you can't just slap it on ebay.

So if you find an old coin, you must report it. The authorities who examine the coin might let you keep it, or they might acquire it for the state if they deem it to be historically significant. And yes, Israeli authorities tend to deem all First Jewish Revolt coins as "historically significant", so you're not likely to be allowed to keep one of those if you find one.

As you can probably tell from the undertone in the OP's linked article, archaeology in Israel/Palestine is highly politicized - with the Israeli archaeologists seeking to promote the ancient landholdings of the Jews, and Palestinian archaeologists seeking to downplay such finds and promote non-Jewish archaeology instead. Thus, every scrap of stone, every shard of pottery, and every ancient coin potentially plays into that conflict. Especially if such artifacts are found in a contested territory, such as Jerusalem.

Israel no doubt strongly emphasizes this fact to it's citizens. Illegally digging up, keeping, selling or exporting a Jewish Revolt coin isn't just illegal, it's unpatriotic - you're actively helping The Enemy when you do that.
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I really didn't know anything about the laws in Israel pertaining to finding antiquities. Very interesting!

I would figure in Israel and Armenia, there are plenty of antiquities (including ancient coinage) that need to be discovered.

Finding a pre-Flood coin (if any existed at the time) would be unimaginable since the world's geography changed after the Flood (c. 2500 BC).


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