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1927 Shilling Mintage Query

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During lockdown for Covid-19, a kind person that I trade coins with in the UK decided that I should collect pre-decimal UK coins. So by trading with them as well as a few other people, it looks like I am now collecting pre-decimal coins which I am still learning about.

Here is one thing that is confusing myself and another CCF forum member.

We can find a mintage figure for the old reverse 1927 Shilling but not the new reverse 1927 Shilling.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4928.html says 9,262,300 while a guidebook by C H Perkins says 9,262,344 for the old reverse.

While for the new reverse no mintage figure is given.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4416.html and the guide book just says new design for the mintage.

Does this mean that The Royal Mint only kept track of the total number of the 1927 Shillings made rather than breaking them down by type?
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The Royal Mint Report for 1927 (page 57) does not break down shillings by design type. It just says "Shilling... 9,262,344". If individual die record usage within specific years was recorded, it does not seem to have been made public; if it had been, surely one of the catalogue references would have noted this.

It does mention, on page 1 of the Report, that the new designs were approved on 3rd November 1927, which is quite late in the year, so logically, unless the Mint had been holding out on producing shillings until the new design was released, then there should be more "old design" than "new design" shillings in that year. Indeed, page 2 of the Report implies that for at least some denominations, the only examples of the new designs issued with the 1927 date were to be found in the "specimen" sets. I particularly like the Mint Master's astonishment that 9,492 sets had been sold so far, smashing all previous set sales.
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I can't give any more definite figures from my books.
ESC lists both types with the same rarity index (S).
My old Krause lists the second type with "included above" for mintage and gives total mintage of 9,262,000 for both types. Prices in all grades are broadly similar, so the implication is that there is little difference in terms of perceived scarcity.
Spink never lists mintages but again the prices in all grades are broadly similar.
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Probably the same for the 1926 coins too then.
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