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1977 25 New Pence - Elizabeth II (Silver Jubilee)

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I forgot I had this coin in my collection...
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 Posted 04/27/2024  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice!
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These coins were once common in coin dealer's "junk boxes" - I don't know if they still are.

The design is very atypical for a British coin, to the extent that it often isn't regarded as a coin and is tossed in the "foreign medals" bucket.

In case anyone is wondering what the bird thing on the reverse is: this is the Ampulla, the ceremonial container of anointing oil, used in British coronation ceremonies. It's supposed to be an eagle, though doesn't really look like one either on the coin or in person. The spoon underneath the Ampulla it is the Coronation Spoon, used for holding the oil from the Ampulla for the anointing during the ceremony. This spoon is actually the oldest artifact in the British Crown Jewels, being the only piece that survived the English Civil War when England became a republic. The spoon survived because when the crown jewels were sold off and scrapped, someone bought it and kept it to use as a spoon.
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I was a teenager when these came out and I remember changing pound notes for these at the bank and trying to spend them! 25 pence in those days would buy a snack in my college canteen and I spent several there! I also used one for a bus fare, and put one in the Sunday collection at church. But I remember being frustrated several times when shopkeepers said it wasn't a coin! I told them that it was worth 25 pence and they would reply "It doesn't say that on it, so I'm not taking it!" In fact, very few British milled crowns ever had the denomination on them.

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These coins were once common in coin dealer's "junk boxes" - I don't know if they still are.

Yes, they are! My dealer's junk box (4 coins for £1) usually has a few in it, so I can still get them for face value!
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The silver proof version of the coin looks very nice and was the first British proof coin for many years to have a full deep cameo effect: proof versions of the 1953 Coronation and 1972 Silver Wedding crowns were highly polished all over with no frosting on the raised surfaces, and annual Proof Sets only started appearing with a cameo finish in the 1980s.
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I have one in my collection somewhere myself, and I have seen a few of these coins in dealers junk boxes from time to time up here.
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Thanks for all the information on this one! I can't believe it is a 'junk box' coin.. I think it is quite nice myself (well except for the duck on the reverse maybe)
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I think it is quite nice myself

- The design is very attractive (personally I'd have put '25 pence' in the centre of the reverse instead of the ampulla and spoon), but The Royal Mint just made far too many of them (37,061,160), and after 40 years many of the people who put them aside have passed away, passed their collections on to relatives or sold them, and supply far exceeds demand. Compare that to the 2011 £5 coin commemorating William and Kate's wedding - mintage was restricted to 100,000 and the coins sold out quickly, and normally even the standard cupro-nickel version costs considerably more than the original issue price.
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I bought one of those for pocket piece use a few years ago.

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It was in various pockets, on-and-off, for about two years, but unfortunately I misplaced it at some point (and then found it again but it was already Covid and I didn't have anywhere near as much coinage in my pocket any more).
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Yes, very common. I have one down here too.
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thanks Numis on that info.

thanks Jan1May and Triggers - maybe we are the very last 3 to have one of these in the world and now is very rare and I can not go retire...
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