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Which is more feasible for investment purposes? NGC or PCGS grades of MS65 or higher of P & D mints or PR69 & PR70 of S minted coins? Since it is harder to get the MS66 or higher with the P & D mints, I'm wondering if those would be better to have. These questions are actually pertaining to the State Quarters and Westward Journey nickels.

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This is my opinion: Buying graded State Quarters or westward journey nickels for investment purposes is a fools errand. They obviously *may* go up, but it is a speculative buy. There are too many high grade coins out there that have *not* been graded yet.

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Good point Steve. Guess I should concentrate on graded coins that are no longer being made such as Franklin and Walking Liberty halves, etc.....
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Mark, even though purchasing classic coins does not suffer the same pitfalls as recently issued coins, successfully investing in them is still not easy.

For starters, the transaction costs on each end are hard to overcome...the markup you pay if you buy at retail, and the hit you take if you sell back at wholesale (or below).

I don't know if there are many Franklin's out there that would be considered "investment" grade.
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steve 199

what series or specific coins would you consider a good investment purchase(besides multi-thousand dollar coins)?
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IMO, the higher grade UNC's are far more difficult to find than the Proofs, which are specifically made with more care and pressure (struck at least twice?).

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what series or specific coins would you consider a good investment purchase(besides multi-thousand dollar coins)?


I don't know. My only advice is that it is *hard* to make money "investing" in coins. By "invest", I assume a buy and hold strategy.

Many people say that key date coins do the best (1909-S VDB cent, for example). Just the other day there was a thread talking about how *well* it has performed over the last 30-40 years (I don't remember the exact time range). Someone calculated that if one was purchased at the beginning of the time frame, that it had performed at about 8% per year since then. I did not confirm the math.

That's really not so hot. If that is a good performer, what does an average or bad performer do?

By the way, it is also *hard* to consistently make money in the stock market. Some folks do so, and are merely (statistically) lucky.

Now, what about flipping coins? That is a dog of a different color. But that still requires work, and knowledge. If you aren't able to buy wholesale and sell retail, there are still costs on both ends of the deal that have to be overcome.

My 10 cents on the matter (inflation).
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The best way to make money at just about anything is to have more knowledge than the average person investing in that area so you can spot opportunities. If you settle on Franklins or Morgans or Barbers you should learn what you can about the series to spot underpriced key dates, coins that have been graded too low, etc. so when you can purchase them and make the best of the opportunity.
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I agree with oih82w8 in that high grade MS coins often are much harder to find than high grade proofs.

I am not collecting coins for profit, but I think that numismatic coins are much better to spend money on than many things. There aren't many things (esp. at my age) you can buy that appreciate in value or even hold their value over years....My hope is that my collection will maintain value and hopefully appreciate in value by the time I hand it down to my kids.

What do you think is a sleeper series that is undervalued in todays market?

BTW I am 20 yr. old....
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Franklin halves and Peace dollars in my opinion, but take note that that is only my opinion.
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If you go for the Peace dollars, look especially for the well struck pieces. Many are weakly struck.
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Franklin Proof are going sky high if there PR-65-68 Cameo & Ultra cameo and I think that 1964-1970 Kennedy will do the same but they must be PR & MS-65 + Cameo & Ultra cameo
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