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 Posted 05/13/2024  09:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Another coin from the job lot that I can't identify. Not in the best of shape, but hopefully someone will recognise it. Initially I thought that it might be Zeus and Ares, but that was obviously wrong. Bronze. Diameter: 17 mm. Weight: 6.0 gr.
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 Posted 05/14/2024  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, Jim. Just some speculation here. I wonder if it may be one of these Athens issues with Zeus and Dionysus below. Although the Dionysus bust on yours has a rather rounded head of hair compared to the somewhat spikey versions on the examples provided, I like the correspondence of the bumpiness within the hair itself - perhaps the ivy wreath attribute.

Also, these issues sometimes have an "A" behind the head, and there may be one on yours. They also seem to often illustrate a little bowl-shaped curl of hair at the back of the neck - as yours does. (See arrows.)

And, importantly, the base of the neck is rendered the same as we see on your "Dionysus" - as a slightly arching curve rather than as a shoulder line or upper part of clothing.

Finally, the size, weight, and fabric seem about right.

See the Kroll 144 on the Wildwinds Athens page:
https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/gre...thens/t.html

ACsearch.info links:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6253130
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8375180

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And here's a sold one from VCoins - suggesting the type is a somewhat pricey rarity:

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Many thanks, Bob. Once again I think you have hit the nail square on the head. I got hung up on Ares and didn't think of Dionysus, and as you pointed out, there is that distinctive curl. I don't think I'd have gotten that in a month of Sundays. It was one of a group of five "unknown" coins from a dealer I had previously bought from, who said that he didn't have the time or patience to spend a lot of time identifying them. As it turns out they have all been rather uncommon so far.

I bought the group mainly because of the scallop shell coin, which after a nudge by @mylimebug has been attributed as Calabria, Tarentum. Unit (Circa 275-200 BC). scallop shell / kithara. The smallest at 9mm was from Alexandria in Troas (circa 95-85 BC), lyre / AΛEΞ, tripod. Another at 17mm has been identified as from Bargylia in Caria. 2nd-1st centuries BC. Pegasos flying right / Stag standing right.
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The final coin appears to be one of the Ptolemaic Kings of Egypt, Zeus laureate / eagle standing left on thunderbolt. There does appear to be BAΣIΛEΩΣ on the right hand side of the reverse, but no characteristic dimple in the centre of either the obverse or reverse. Still chasing this one up.

Thanks again, Bob, and thanks for the links. Much obliged.
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