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1882-S Morgan Dollar For Grading

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 Posted 06/02/2024  7:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Festus to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just bought this ICG slabbed 1882-s Morgan for $62. What do you think it grades? Thanks
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 Posted 06/02/2024  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not the best pics, looks like a lot of field chatter. I'll say MS-63.
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 Posted 06/02/2024  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maine Member to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Frosty. I'm at 63.
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 Posted 06/02/2024  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll go with MS-63 as well.
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 Posted 06/03/2024  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the 82(S) are sharp and bold in general. the reverse is short on this account. glare due to lighting may not be showing us the surfaces and the amount of luster remaining. I'm getting the sense its broken at least across the cheek and spotty on the obv. I think the coin is MS. I think its going to fall into the MS63 box unless better photos can be presented
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MS-63 based on these photos.
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I'll say 64 for this one. Very attractive coin with few marks.
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 Posted 06/03/2024  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this one has a shot at a 64.
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Is that not wear on the high hair and cap areas and on the wing edges?
Then it should be AU58?
Or is that just photo illusion and not wear? I don't have much experience with frosty Morgan's, so I'm asking to learn.
Thanks
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 Posted 06/04/2024  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is that not wear on the high hair and cap areas and on the wing edges?


good question

one thing to consider here is that if the coin was circulated and the areas you noted were from that, it would be highly unlikely that the coin would not have any marks anywhere on the surfaces. I do see some very light marks on the cheek which could be just from being in contact with other coins. I'm not sure these photos accurately show what the coin looks like in hand.

taking a second look at this one and assuming the photos are a good representation of the coin in hand I'm seeing a coin that the luster is broken on both sides. the surfaces do not look original. I think what you are seeing is just rub and not from circulation but keep in mind the surfaces we see may not be accurate. the coin could have been lightly dipped as well.

the only way to tell for sure is to get new photos with less lighting. however I've been looking at some slabbed silver dollars that were graded details cleaned and found several with surfaces that look like this one. I'm revising my grade to UNC Details (cleaned)
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 Posted 06/04/2024  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Festus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It graded a MS63. Thanks for the replies.
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its ICG which although ok I would not go by their assessment as infallible
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 Posted 06/04/2024  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Festus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not, that's why I wanted y'all's opinions.
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Lovely coin, o how I wish they would be so cheap over here
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@panzaldi, I have the coin in hand and it looks different for sure. It looks like hairlines on the reverse to me, but only in a certain light.
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ICG is a good slabber to mine for bargains. They aren't dishonest like the basement slabbers but are just mediocre graders meaning sometimes they overgrade and sometimes they undergrade. One of the few slabbers where I think you can still find a $3000 coin for $500 based on an incorrect grade but you have to be sure you have return privileges because in hand these coins can have issues.
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