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totty Valued Member Australia 77 Posts	Posted 06/06/2024 12:43 am This piece has recently come up in a local auction house. A mounted 1711 silver rider ducaton. I would like to hear your thoughts on authenticity. The auction house said the piece X-ray tested as ~96% silver. Unfortunately these are the only images I have. Thanks for any help! Report this Post to the Staff

captainmandrake1 Pillar of the Community United States 878 Posts	Posted 06/06/2024 03:47 am Looks like a shipwreck coin mounted in a bezel. The ship was the De Liefde. I've seen shipwreck coins mounted in this manner and experiencing the kind of damage this coin has. It's probably safe to buy. Report this Post to the Staff
jecz79 Pillar of the Community Portugal 655 Posts	Posted 06/07/2024 8:47 pm I would pass unless I really liked the type. Water damage and then wear damage? Report this Post to the Staff
totty Valued Member Australia 77 Posts	Posted 06/08/2024 03:39 am Thank you guys for the replies, currently waiting on more photos from the auction house. Jecz: yes, after one of the type as I find the shipwreck history quite interesting. The bezel damage/ wear would be unfortunate however, but if I can win it for a good price I'd certainly take it! Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3343 Posts	Posted 06/08/2024 07:20 am I have a 1711 Utrecht rijder that's more corroded than this one. They appear to have started out as uncirculated coins before the shipwreck. Aside from the corrosion they have excellent detail. The bezel on the one you're looking at may be detachable. It partially hides the rim dentils you can see on mine. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 06/08/2024 07:36 am Report this Post to the Staff
captainmandrake1 Pillar of the Community United States 878 Posts	Posted 06/08/2024 8:34 pm I can completely see why a shipwreck effect coin would be of interest. After all, it individualizes a coin to a specific moment in time, which is really fascinating. Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3343 Posts	Posted 06/08/2024 11:04 pm The reason I got this rijder is because the details are so sharp. Most 300-400 year old shipwreck coins are a corroded mess. These 1711's are almost perfect except for a few spots. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 06/08/2024 11:05 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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