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Yes, the mint is Lund (though I didn't know it was in Sweden). This ruler had a lot of types (relatively speaking) with religious imagery, all very Byzantine looking, I guess a sign of how far those guys went trading. I won't help us much with that 100 page goal, but here's another recent pickup, I think a type Spence posted 50 or so pages ago (Edit: I checked ... it was on page 31). A heavily debased denaro of Frederick II as king of Sicily and Jerusalem, dateable to 1247:  
Edited by tdziemia 10/28/2024 6:15 pm
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Quote: A heavily debased denaro of Frederick II as king of Sicily and Jerusalem, dateable to 1247: Very nice! 
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Very nice, tdziemia.
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nice add tdz! (got the name right this time)
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One more for now ... This denier was struck at the Abbey of Saint Martin near Tours "late 10th early 11th century" from what I can tell. References Boudeau #183, and I think Duplessy #408 (though I don;t have either catalog). There is a similar type but with the "chatel tournois" on the reverse rather than the temple, that is a little later.   Obverse: Cross. TVRONIS CIVITAS (note the V and A in CIVITAS made with the same punch) Reverse: Tetrastyle temple. SCS MARTINVS
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Quote: This denier was struck at the Abbey of Saint Martin near Tours "late 10th early 11th century" from what I can tell... Fantastic! 
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Quote: I think Duplessy #408 Yes. Nice contributions! 
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Nice addition, tdziemia!
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very nice tdz!! 
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To keep things moving, here is a puzzle / teaser. I just picked up this coin that looks like it belongs on this thread:  Why doesn't it?
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Nice addition, tdziemia. 
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Quote: I just picked up this coin that looks like it belongs on this thread: Why doesn't it? That is a very nice sterling, tdziemia!  Or quadruple denier, if you like.  If you quarter it, you can make four new posts, to help us reach the 100 page goal . . .  But we have crossed the 1,000 posts line, which I think is great, and which certainly exceeds my expectations for this thread!
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I fully expected you would be the first one with the answer  . Yes, for a variety of reasons, many principalities in northern Europe made coins that copied the English penny of Edward I, with a facing bust with wavy hair obverse, and a solid cross and pellets reverse. So this "sterling" (1/3 groat) of Brabant has similar design (note that the duke does not wear a gold crown, only a crown of roses) and the same weight as an English penny (aboout 1.3 gr.), but was valued locally at multiple of a Brabant denier, which at the time was a tiny silver coin weighing only a half gram. Brabant and Flanders had extensive trade with England (wool industry) at the time, so it made sense for them to have coins with clear equivalents on the both sides of the Channel. Interestingly, John of Brabant chose to use his title of Duke of Limburg on the obverse of this coin (DVX LIMBVRGIE), just possibly because it more closely resembles REX ANGLIE (especially taking into account the similarities between the gothic n and R).
Edited by tdziemia 11/26/2024 07:56 am
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Very interesting teaser! 
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