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Is There A Cud On The Reverse Of This 1833 Capped Bust Dime? (Residue On 2x2 Not Coin)

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It looks like it could be CU-10c-1833-01R as listed on Cuds-On-Coins.com or at least a die stage of the same Cud.

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Sure looks like it, very cool!
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It looks like it could be CU-10c-1833-01R as listed on Cuds-On-Coins.com or at least a die stage of the same Cud.
It does seem to match. Nice work, Yokozuna!
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Great find! It's a Cud.
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Hello, capped bust dime specialist here!

Your coin is an 1833 JR-4, a common variety for the year, nearly all of which show some form of Retained Cuds. However, this is *not* a proper Cud but rather a Retained Cud. It only looks like a full Cud because of the great deal of wear, which commonly leads to a mis-identification of a Retained Cud. Specifically, it looks like your JR-4 is in Reiver state f, but it is difficult to confirm the exact die state with such a worn coin.

The JR-4 developed three distinct but overlapping Retained Cuds before the reverse die was finally retired. The first Retained Cud begins at E1, the second at E2 and the third at A2. In Reiver state f, the second Retained Cud at E2 has fully formed, and there is a die crack from A2 to the ribbon.

As far as I'm aware, JR-4 never developed a full Cud. If it did, such a terminal die state would be very to extremely rare (i.e. either R6 or R7).
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