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1731 5 Kopeks (Contemporary Counterfeit?)

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 Posted 06/27/2024  8:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MaximillianMike to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This 1731 5 Kopeks is 30mm and 17.7g which would be within tolerance of a genuine example. The issue is that there were no 1731 5 kopeks struck that year only denga's and palushkas. My hunch is that this is a contemporary counterfeit and I know that contemporaey counterfeits were struck in Sweden and occasionally turn up, all considered rare. I am not sure if this is one of those but I wanted to share it here for other opinions on it. Thanks!

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 Posted 07/01/2024  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nytik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't recall any information that swedes imitated this particular type of coin.
This one could be also a local russian counterfeit, judging by its crude manufacture.
I don't like it's obvioulsy artifical toning, though. The resolution of image is not sufficient enough, so I would not exclude the possibility that the coin could be a modern counterfeit
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 Posted 07/03/2024  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MaximillianMike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nytik, thanks for the reply. The pictures are what I had at the time. I have the coin in hand now and the patina doesn't appear to be artificial to me. I also haven't removed modern counterfeit as an option yet but that is mainly because I just don't know enough to make a determination. The more obvious signs of modern counterfeits I am used to seeing are largely absent from this one.
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 Posted 07/03/2024  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I cannot say what this is, but it is not the Swedish 5 kopek counterfeit. That was dated 1787 and looks like this: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces185915.html
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Erafjel,

Thanks for sharing that, any discussion I have found otherwise about Swedish counterfeits leads to broken links, so it's good to see that. Thanks again.
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