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Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1910 Posts	Posted 06/29/2024 12:20 pm What would explain the looks of this Chinese Cash Coin? Sure isn't the expected "Boo- mintmark". The obverse is an ordinary Qian Long tong bao, but it looks like sand spoiled the mold. Tong looks a bit broken up but Long is really bad. The obverse is certainly readable and anyone could ID it. But the reverse is horrible. Edited by Albert 06/29/2024 1:31 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34393 Posts	Posted 06/29/2024 12:50 pm @alb, can you please also post a pic of the other side of this coin? Thx. Some of these cast cash are incredibly worn and that makes the characters extra spread out. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
halfamind Pillar of the Community United States 1484 Posts	Posted 06/29/2024 9:26 pm One side sat in a corrosive liquid? Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1910 Posts	Posted 06/29/2024 9:33 pm Would not explain the length of the reverse devices, and you can see partial elements from one side that would not belong on the other side Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94728 Posts	Posted 07/02/2024 09:41 am Can you post up some images of what the coin is supposed to look like for comparison? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1910 Posts	Posted 07/02/2024 11:29 am I don't think it's possible. The Boo- mintmark is so bad I don't think it can be identified. But anyone can see the Manchu mintmarks online or in the catalogs. No telling which one it's supposed to be. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16806 Posts	Posted 07/02/2024 6:45 pm The simplest explanation for "why does a cash coin look bad" is that the government didn't make it. At least, not the central government. The coin is, or at least purports to be, from Xinjiang province, Ushi mint, way out on the western frontier where the population majority is Turkic Muslims and central government authority was dubious at best. The mint-name, "Ushi", is written in Manchu on the left, and Arabic on the right. Hartill reference is 22.433. Surprisingly, there isn't an example on zeno.ru, but if you do a Google search for "Hartill 22.433", you should find some that look much like yours. Example. So, is it genuine? The green colour and fuzzy appearance don't endear themselves to me, but on the plus side it does look very coppery-red, which is a distinctive of Xinjiang coinage. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1910 Posts	Posted 07/02/2024 8:37 pm Well I'll be! Right under my nose and I missed it! What a nice job to find it so now I see it's not what I thought at all. To be honest, I asked the seller why it looked that way and I suppose he missed it too. Led me to think it was a fouled up casting. Lesson learned and saved me from embarrassment just in time to edit and correct the page before it goes to the printer. I just did not know the mintmark could look like that. Right there in my own book on the desk and never turned to the right page! Thank you so much! Here's why I feel so dumb: I study the mint names on page XV in Hartill. If I had turned the page to XVI I could have seen USHI and avoided making a fool of myself! Edited by Albert 07/03/2024 7:22 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16806 Posts	Posted 07/03/2024 8:34 pm Found them on Zeno.ru - I thought they should have some. They just didn't come up in searches for "Xinjiang" and "Ushi", for some reason. https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=1269 Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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