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zakota Valued Member United States 342 Posts	Posted 04/30/2009 1:19 pm I need better knowledge on these. In the book it is not clear on the condition. It mentions some things that are not on these coins for grading. Like the word Liberty on both the dime and nickle. There is no liberty word even in the example photo in book. But they refer to the letters being sharp or non-existent. Image: D.jpg 41.68 KB Image: D2.jpg 59.62 KB Image: N.jpg 61.66 KB Image: N2.jpg 84.66 KB Report this Post to the Staff

coinguybrian Rest in Peace United States 5375 Posts	Posted 04/30/2009 1:31 pm The Barber dimes both appear to be in G-6 condition. The Liberty nickel appears to be in G-4, but I'm not too good with those, could be higher. Report this Post to the Staff
rkp Valued Member United States 254 Posts	Posted 04/30/2009 1:31 pm I would grade the 1911 Barber dime as AG-3 at best since it has several rim nicks and the legend is partially merging with the rim. The 1903 dime I would grade as a G-4 since it has complete rims on both sides. To answer your question, the word "LIBERTY" can be found on these dimes on a band located above the forehead. Please refer to my dime in a thread below as an example. You can grade the dimes based on how many letters of the word "LIBERTY" are visible or if all the letters are present, based on how sharp the letters appear. Hope that helps. https://goccf.com/t/45926 Report this Post to the Staff
coinguybrian Rest in Peace United States 5375 Posts	Posted 04/30/2009 1:38 pm rkp, I think a 'G-4' coin usually has a completely flat obverse design, from what I've seen in slabs. G-6 usually has a little detail, but not enough for VG-8. I personally don't see the letters merging on the first, but meh. But yeah, I find dimes to be real hard to grade compared to the quarters and half dollars. The 'liberty' is real small and often you need magnification to determine the exact grade when you're around VG-F. Especially when there is gunk blocking the way, etc. Report this Post to the Staff
zakota Valued Member United States 342 Posts	Posted 04/30/2009 2:05 pm Thanks for the help guys. I am poor at grading. Even following the books and guidelines I am usually way off. Report this Post to the Staff
rkp Valued Member United States 254 Posts	Posted 04/30/2009 6:02 pm ShadowCreator: Admittedly my knowledge is not as great as yours especially when it comes to grading. However, I found David Lawrence's 'The Complete Guide to Barber dimes' to be an excellent reference guide. Here is a link to the grading section: http://www.stellacoinnews.com/index...h-2-grading/ According to this, at the G-6 level, you would see some detail in the wreath of Liberty's head. I don't see the detail pictured in the guide on either dime. I'm seeing the "UNI" in "UNITED" to start merging with the rim on the obverse and on the top left on the reverse on the 1911 dime. Perhaps this is slight enough to pass for a G-4 but it would be a low grade G-4 in my opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
coinguybrian Rest in Peace United States 5375 Posts	Posted 04/30/2009 6:11 pm Ah, I was just going by the ANA book standards. It looks better than the G-4 in there. So maybe just G+, or something? Though, that guide seems to be a little more conservative than what I usually see (the VG-10 looks like what is typically graded F-12, for example). Report this Post to the Staff
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