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How Far Back Can We Go? Eighth Edition! We Need - 1366 C. E. (A. H. 767)

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 Posted 09/17/2025  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bremen 4 Grote 1646:

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Nice coins, Spence and tdziemia!
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Livonia under Sweden, billon solidus, 1645. I think that was the first 17th century coin in my collection.

These solidi have been extensively imitated at Suceava, though AFAIK we've discussed this specific coin before and decided it was probably an original Riga issue.
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Nice! It's amazing how many of these have survived in nice shape (and yours is even well centered . )

I have a 1645 quarter patagon from Brabant:
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here is my 1645 England (not quite the United Kingdom yet)
It has no date on it, but the 'Eye' mint mark at the top designates it as a 1645 only coin
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces357869.html
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Another 3 Kreuzer from Austria for today from me:

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here is my 1645 England (not quite the United Kingdom yet) It has no date on it, but the 'Eye' mint mark at the top designates it as a 1645 only coin
I will let the experts judge that, but since Spence posted another 1645 coin, we are good to move on to 1644 tomorrow.
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Big thanks to @tdz for giving me a nudge! Today numista approved the use of my images of the Austrian (Graz Mint) 3 Kreuzers that I posted here a couple days ago. Here is the link:

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I will let the experts judge that
Not an expert, just good (OK, above average) at looking things up...

Apparently the dates for the eye mintmark are 12 May to 10 November 1645; here's a source specifically for the shillings. So yeah, that's a definite datable coin.

Of course, as mentioned, both my coin and Spence's (and tdziemia's, for that matter) clearly qualify for the year, so the progress wouldn't have been in doubt anyway.
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Also, not an expert, but that hasn't stopped me from weighing in previously. If that Shilling was in my collection, I'd call it a 1645.
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Nice variety yesterday, and congrats to spence on joining the Numista "plate coin club."

Here is a 1644 liard from the Duchy of Brabant ("Spanish Netherlands")
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Not an expert, just good (OK, above average) at looking things up...
Knowing where to look and how to read are important parts of that process, so do not sell yourself short! Although, your humble nature is appreciated.


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Of course, as mentioned, both my coin and Spence's (and tdziemia's, for that matter) clearly qualify for the year
I overlooked you and TD. I apologize. Old age is taking its toll.
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