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No Date Lincoln Cent Mint Error - Saddle Struck Plus Partial Brockage?

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I'm still all burned out from my summer work, but trying to get through some of the stuff that has come in. My thought is that this is a saddle strike with partial brockage, but also note it is only 1.80g so maybe on a thin-rolled blank? Fairly scratched up and don't see any zinc so assuming it is copper. Anyone with a clear head that can properly decipher how this came to is encouraged to comment.

No date Lincoln Cent mint error- saddle struck plus partial brockage

First two images are roughly at 180 degrees while third image is to try and show the brockage


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 Posted 08/17/2024  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whoa, very cool, way beyond my ken.
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 Posted 08/17/2024  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool! I think Mike should take a look on this one. I'll email him.
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Tropicalbats diagnosed this one correctly. It's a saddle strike on a copper-alloy planchet derived from rolled-thin cent stock. The strike was weak because the thickness of the planchet was close to the minimum die clearance. The larger of the two off-center strikes has either an indent or a partial brockage. I see no incuse design elements. If that observation is correct, then it's an indent. Of course, the strike was strong beneath the intrusive disc as the disc took up the excess space between the dies.
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 Posted 08/17/2024  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool coin!

That's the 1973 reverse design yeah? Large designer's initials.
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Thanks Mike! I'm going with your assessment of indent, as I've been tipping the coin and agree there really isn't anything incuse there. But good to know my addled brain got pretty close on this one.

Tanman, I saw that and declined to put that in there without getting some time to look it up. Last time I called one 1973 based on the initials, when I looked it up, I was wrong as those are really big on that year. But yes I do need to do that. Just right now there are many, many coins needing attention and mostly sticking with the easy stuff that can get done quickly. Thought this one was fun, though, and wasn't sure of my diagnosis.

Just glanced at a 1973 and some other date. I am strongly leaning toward 1973, which would be cool so as to put an actual date on it.
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You have the coolest coins to post about!
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Wow some thing different every time congrats
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Are the really deep gouges on one side of the coin caused during the strike? Post mint damage?
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Wow - really nice error coin and great job on the identification.


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Tropicalbats diagnosed this one correctly.


High praise indeed coming from Mike Diamond - and continued evidence that tropicalbats is a true master at error coin identification.

Very well done.


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I'm still all burned out from my summer work


I was wondering where you were - know it has something to do with bat health and scientific survey.

I suggest that many of us CCF'ers would enjoy reading an update on your summer work - perhaps the Family forum would work to do so.
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Yes, tell us about those gouges!
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Another interesting error! Thanks for posting!
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Excellent coin.

I do have a question about K12 on the third image. Is that a "D" near the rim or just part of the PSD?

ps. Welcome back and thanks for the eye candy.
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Thanks all for the great comments and welcome back! As for K12 on the third image it's just more PMD. And along those lines, I honestly do not know how this type of damage gets on error coins, but I see it fairly commonly. Either the machinery can scratch them up or maybe they do this on purpose to note it's a bad coin. That would seem odd, but I don't really see this on many non-error coins.

And while I am back, it's not for long. Next up is Kentucky for a week and then a six week fall project. I will try and put something in the Family forum, but I'm putting it here to let anyone who reads this far down into this thread that I am going to retire from full-time bat chasing on Halloween (of course!) and won't disappear all summer every summer anymore.
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