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Julia Domna Alexandria (Unpublished?)

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 Posted 09/01/2024  12:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pastpost to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Dear friends,
A week ago, I was presented by burned and holed coin with Julia Domna portrait (first two photos).
After a few days of smooth cleaning, I found out that is Julia Domna denarius Alexandria mint
VLIA obverse legend and VENER(I) VIC reverse legend.
I could not find any similar denarius in catalogs available to me.
Could it be unpublished variant of VENERI VICTR?
Any info is welcome.

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 Posted 09/01/2024  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try looking on acsearch.info or numista.com
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09/01/2024 09:41 am
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 Posted 09/01/2024  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AFAIK there's a ton of minor spelling variants in Severan denarii from eastern mints (where the mint workers wouldn't have been particularly good at Latin). It wouldn't surprise me at all if some of them are unpublished.

EDIT: Wildwinds records a VENERI VIC as [the second] "RIC 632 var", attributing it to "S. Hasen collection, ex ricardo DE, 2005" [sic]. Their coin looks like a double die match to your coin.
I couldn't find any examples of this legend on ACSearch or Numista.

EDIT 2: the Wildwinds entry is attributed to "Emesa or Laodiceia" (rather than Alexandria), which might be a factor in why you weren't finding it. AFAIK the distinction between specific eastern mints is largely a matter of minor style differences, and I don't know remotely enough about those to have any idea which attribution is more plausible for your specific coin.
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09/01/2024 10:43 am
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 Posted 09/01/2024  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Attempted, unsuccessfully, to link to an example with an abbreviated reverse legend in a Forum member's gallery. Apparently the link wasn't working.

It's not a match to the OP coin, but perhaps a similar variant. Cutting and pasting here.

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Julia Domna - Venus Victrix
Julia Domna
Denarius
194 A.D.
Alexandria
Av.: IVLIA DO - MNA AVG / draped bust right
Rev.: VENER - VIC / Venus, naked to waist, standing right, holding apple and palm, resting elbow on column
2,54 Gr., 12 h die axis
RIC - , Coh. -
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09/01/2024 10:51 am
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 Posted 09/01/2024  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pastpost to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@january1may-Thank you very much for your answer and information on the coin. It is possible that the reason I did not find the coin in the catalogs is that the mint is not Alexandria, although the style of the portrait
of Julia Domna belongs to Alexandria.
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 Posted 09/02/2024  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A nice find. There are a few legend varieties known. I have only owned one.

Obv:- IVLA (sic) DOMNA AVG, Draped bust right, hair tied in bun behind
Rev:- VENERI VICTI (sic), Venus, nude with drapery falling below hips, standing with back turned, head right, resting left arm on low column, holding an apple in extended right hand and palm, sloping upward to left in left hand: coil of drapery falls over column
Minted in Alexandria, A.D. 194
RIC -, RSC -, BMCRE -.

2.25g. 17.65mm. 0o

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 Posted 09/02/2024  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pastpost to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@maridvnvm- I was sure that you would appreciate this coin.
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