Ancient Chinese Coin Collection: Genuine?

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JapanDude New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 08/09/2024 11:28 pm This summer, I purchased this collection of ancient Chinese coins from an online auction while in I was in Japan. The owner did not know anything about their provenance. I won this after a bidding war, and so at least one other person thought that they might be genuine! Because of the prevalence of fakes, I know that these are likely fake... Maybe someone here can tell me whether these coins are fake or genuine? Thanks in advance, and I hope that I can repay the favor one day! Will gladly answer any questions about how I obtained this collection too! Edited by JapanDude 08/09/2024 11:38 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34393 Posts	Posted 08/10/2024 01:01 am @japan, buying Chinese ancients with no provenance is not a great starting point. I have my doubts about some of the pieces but honestly am not qualified to offer more than a guess. We have a few experts in this area who pop in occasionally. Hopefully one of them can weigh in with more confidence. You might help them out by providing close up images, weights, and dimensions especially for the spade and knife money. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
JapanDude New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 08/10/2024 12:23 pm Thank you for your reply! I just weighed and measured the three largest pieces. I hope that this helps! Chinese knife money (#26041;#39318;#20992; in photo, era: #26149;#31179;#26178;#20195;) Length: 141 mm Weight: 14.0 g Chinese spade money (#36008;#24067; in photo, era: #35199;#26278;#65297;#65300;#24180; (14 AD)) Length: 70 mm Weight: 18.2 g Chinese coin (large one, #22823;#27849;#20116;#21313; in photo, era: #35199;#26278;#65303;#24180; (7 AD)) Length: 30 mm Weight: 9.1 g Edited by JapanDude 08/10/2024 12:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
JapanDude New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 08/10/2024 12:27 pm The "#" symbols in the above post were the Chinese characters that I had entered ... I see that they don't show up. Oh well.... Report this Post to the Staff
JapanDude New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 08/10/2024 8:04 pm I tried to research as much as I could at my end. (1) The three-hole spade coin is a fake with almost 99.99% certainty. - It is identical to an extremely rare three-hole spade that sold at auction for $591,000 in 2012 (Source: https://primaltrek.com/blog/2012/12...ole-spades/). - Also available on ebay for $4.28 (link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/387279046909 I know that this discovery casts a doubt on the authenticity of the entire lot, but... (2) The knife money is similar to this one currently for auction at CNG and Vcoins. Its size and weight are similar. Source 1: https://auctions.cngcoins.com/lots/...mm-1651-g-vf Source 2: https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ma...Default.aspx Thoughts? Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187702 Posts	Posted 08/12/2024 08:53 am Very interesting. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
AlfredG Valued Member United States 53 Posts	Posted 09/01/2024 7:49 pm fakes made for tourists, worthless. Report this Post to the Staff
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