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I originally posted this coin in the Classic coin section, after some good advice I decided to place this problem here.In hopes of getting some expert help with this coin. I have this coin, the 1866-no rays nickel, the Cherrypicker's guide states that this coin was minted with an obverse Hub with rays,not without, also the reverse Hub should be, for this year the I, while this coin clearly( I hope )shows the IIA reverse Hub. I was asked to weigh the coin against another shield nickel(I figure this to grade AG/G, so I used another AG/G coin to compare the weights of both coins.I was told this coin new should weigh 5-Grams, the coin I have with no rays, weighs 4.7 Grams, while the comparison coin weighs 4.6 Grams. I was told it could possibly be an altered coin, to check the rim for a seam, Not a seam. I am asking for any and all assistance to find out why this coin, according to the text's I have checked, state this coin was only minted with rays, while I have the coin in hand, and as you can see there are no rays and the date is 1866. I checked the PuP's and believe this to be a Rev Hub IIA.I was also told that this could be a "unique" coin, being what it is.....     |
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I looked at a reference book today for Shield and V nickels, there was no mention of any 66 No Rays coins...but...there was mention that it was a year that yielded ALOT of pattern strikes because of the troubles they had striking these coins. Since Jaobler showed the proof W/O Rays 66, I have to assume trial/pattern strikes would have been made with a No Rays obverse, since that is what was used thereafter. Having said that, I cannot see the date real well in the pic, but the last 6 looks a bit different than the first one. Could be from wear or any number of things, but the shape seems different. Seeing no seams on the rim, and no seam inside the rim either side of the coin, my focus would be on an altered date. If you feel the date has not been altered, then a trip to a TPG would be in order to find the pattern number (if that is what this is ) Good Luck ! |
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InfiniteInterest, I am not sure about the pattern coins that were minted, I do believe that the date is hard to see in hand, but am almost positive( you never know for sure) this is probably one of the 'pattern" coins you speak of, because, while the date is hard to see, I believe it surely says 1866. I do not have any other rational answer for the coin I would guess that the trip we spoke of is "off to the TPG'S". I want to thank-you for all your assistance, I think I will await some more feedback before the "trip" is made, although this is the tell all answer, or Should be.....Mike PS: Check out the date in the Cherrypicker's guide on page 202 @ the top of the page,4th edition, vol#1, listed as FS#5c-001. look how the 6's are different, this is the style I believe is on this coin, the numerals are very different, for the same #.... Edited by Morgans Dad
05/06/2009 11:11 pm
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Any update on this? I know there's a '66 patern with no rays so maybe this is an circulated example? Can you weight it?
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Amazon, Things have taken place, 1st the coin weighs just under 5-grams, right considering the wear, 2nd I found some information to this coin in an older book I have and forgot about, it states this coin was struck with NO RAYS and is considered RARE.I gave the coin back to my Dealer/friend and we filled out the submission form to send to ANACS.The coin was not sent out till last week and that is what I was told, my friend is in his 70's and is very forgetful, if I did not ask and follow up on this coin, it would still be in his wallet. I will post the results of the process, PERSONALLY, I believe this to be an 1866-NO RAYS VARIETY, JUST MY GUT FEELING......  |
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looking at the coin, most likely there is wear to the date and it is 1868.
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TreasHunt, Good morning, I had the coin in hand and believe me it is difficult to tell, however I am reasonably certain this is not the case(1868), if you look at the coin and the guide for this variety, you can see the last digit is not the numeral 8,the lower loop is not even close to the shape used in the number 8, but a different number 6 than the first 6 in the date, and this is supported as a way this date was produced by the photo's in the guide as to the different numbers that were used.
In any event, TODAY I will see if there is any news and this should, when the coin comes back, help, thanks for all the input, Mike...
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Mike
Any chance of a closeup on the date?
And good luck with the news!
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Looking at the photos, it looks like 66 to me rather than 68.
Morgan, PM your e-mail.
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07/24/2009 5:04 pm
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