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Help For 6 Pence 1887 - Interesting Year

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what you think - this is a error? and it's common?

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 Posted 05/10/2009  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks normal to me, just a bit of dirt with the metal showing through. Would like to see what the obverse looks like.
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there were three types of sixpence in 1887:
Young head, with text* reverse;
Jubilee head, with shield reverse, a.k.a. "withdrawn type", which this coin is an example of; and
Jubilee head, with text* reverse.

The text in both cases was "six pence", surmounted by a crown, and surrounded by a wreath. The Crowns were of different patterns on the YH & JH coinage.

The withdrawn 6d was withdrawn because it was too similar to the half-sovereign. In spite of the fact that it was withdrawn, the withdrawn type is readily available in the market, often in higher grades.

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no, friends, see again "87" in year, later will clean the coin and will send new photos
Hi, new pictures available, sorry for grade photos. What you think

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Peter Thomas, what would one have to pay for one of the 1887's withdrawn types in a high grade? That's a beautiful coin.

bobo13, please don't clean it!

Is the red 7 where the 7 is supposed to be located? I'm not sure about that piece of metal.. looks like just an errant blob that was originally in one place and then moved later, but I'm definitely not an expert on these.
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After looking at the original pictures again, I do see the remnants of another digit to the left of the 7. Maybe they repunched it? As for the blob above the 7, that's supposed to be a little flower, I think There are a couple of them right after the wording.
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is their the initials jeb on the runcation of the bust or under the truncation of the bust
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In the legend above & to the right of the date reads "PENSE", where's the "SIX"? Is it possible the engraver couldn't spell.
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Nancy, "PENSE" is actually part of a quote on the full Garter on the coin which reads "Honi soit qui mal y pense" which literally translates from old french meaning "Shame be to him who thinks evil of it", or 'Shame on him, who suspects illicit motivation' it is also the MOTTO of English chivalric Order of the Garter dating back to medieval knighthood.
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OK, thanks for the lesson in old French.

I tried looking it up in Latin, didn't think of old French.

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