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1945 [narrow Date] Newfoundland 5c

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 Posted 11/18/2024  1:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Everyone,
Here's an update on the 1945ND Newfoundland 5c; likely one of Barry Borselino's most important discoveries. Thoughts on grade? Given the selling price, any thoughts on where this one is going to end up in the pantheon of NFLD varieties?

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 Posted 11/18/2024  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! With the premium, it sold for $1000

Woops. I looked at the $800 and added 25%, but the 800 already included it.
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I'll say EF-45, just a stab.
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 Posted 11/18/2024  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll guess EF.
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VF/XF with some PVC forming in the Rev. legend I would say $960 CAD ( $800 + 20% buyers premium ) is a very solid price. In a post from October 2021 canadian-varieties reported buying an XF 40 on ebay for $80. Maybe this recent sale will bring a few more out of the woodwork.
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@Everest agreed. Barry thinks this one will catch up with the 1946 or the 1873H 5c. It is certainly a rare one and it's a very clear variety - you can see it without magnification.
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 Posted 11/21/2024  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is a neat date spacing/die variety. As for catching up to the popularity of the 73H and 46 five cents, I doubt it.

My experience with Dominion of Canada coinage tells me that it takes a lot for a die variety to become as popular as a date/mintmark combination. In Canada cents, it has taken decades and lots of published info for some of the die varieties to really take hold, and they still are not collected by many of the set collectors.

As for NF, there are proportionately even less variety collectors. I hope that changes, but then again, I have been hoping for many years that NF coin prices rise. They have not.
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Yes, Rob, I agree that it takes alot for a variety to take hold and prices rise. Just look what happened when we got ICCS and Charlton to list the 1859 DP's 3, 4, 5 & 9/6. Once in the front of Charlton, they take hold.
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 Posted 11/22/2024  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting - what does it take to get Charlton to list something?
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 Posted 11/22/2024  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that it used to be easier to finally get into Charlton. Back then, Bill Cross was the head at Charlton and he and Brian Cornwell (collector and ICCS) were both friends and worked together in/on other ventures. When new or increased popularity varieties started being talked about, they would sometimes be included in the back of one year's variety/specialty section in the back of that year's Charlton. Once in the back "variety/specialty" section, ICCS would then sometimes officially recognize the variety and, at the same time, picked up for inclusion in the Canadian Coin News "Trends" and the coin/variety then took off more. Boreselino's work(s) have started to take hold, so maybe it will gain strength and get picked up for inclusion in some other works/guides. Good luck and you got a good guy on your side (Rob) who has always had an interest in Newf items and a high power in the RCNA.
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