Posted 12/05/2024 11:12 am
1st piece is neat and curious. Segovia, I think more likely Philip IIII rather than III... and I think we see a garbled 1652 date (a frequently encountered date for Segovia roller press minors)... but one of those two kings.
Certainly looks genuine/as made, however... While I'm not a real big studier of production method peccadilloes, I'm confused how a roller press could produce doubling like this. I think the whole sheet of metal would have to be done twice. Have never seen one of this type doubled like this before... and don't see any in a quick review of auction archives.
Would seem to be more indicative of an individual "rocker press" die than a multi-coin "roller press"? Hmmm...
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2nd piece, by style, is Seville 1620s-30s. The shield looks oversized dimensionally for the flan, and the shape is a bit odd for the period... so the easy guess is it's simply an 8R that was cut down to 4R size.
However, the cross almost looks properly sized, so there's a chance it was a 4R size by birth, struck in error with an 8R shield die. Seville Philip IIII is rather plentiful and that's not common for those from my observation, but definitely not an unheard-of occurrence on cobs from other mints/periods (e.g., Mexico Charles II).
Certainly looks genuine/as made, however... While I'm not a real big studier of production method peccadilloes, I'm confused how a roller press could produce doubling like this. I think the whole sheet of metal would have to be done twice. Have never seen one of this type doubled like this before... and don't see any in a quick review of auction archives.
Would seem to be more indicative of an individual "rocker press" die than a multi-coin "roller press"? Hmmm...
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2nd piece, by style, is Seville 1620s-30s. The shield looks oversized dimensionally for the flan, and the shape is a bit odd for the period... so the easy guess is it's simply an 8R that was cut down to 4R size.
However, the cross almost looks properly sized, so there's a chance it was a 4R size by birth, struck in error with an 8R shield die. Seville Philip IIII is rather plentiful and that's not common for those from my observation, but definitely not an unheard-of occurrence on cobs from other mints/periods (e.g., Mexico Charles II).
