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Valued Member
United States
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Figured I would throw this one up here. I purchased this years ago from a local coin dealer. I know what he graded it, but I want to see what the experts  here think it would grade. Plus 2 questions, why do you think is it so dark and why do you think it wore like it did on the reverse. I know that it is the high point on the coin but that looks like to much for what is left of the detail on the other parts of the coin.   |
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Moderator
 United States
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I'm not an expert on this type of coin so my comments are pretty much based on my gut feeling. The wear on the reverse doesn't look natural to me, It looks like it was ground off. The dentals also look wrong for this type of coin and some of the stars on the obverse are mis-shaped. The coin does appear to be struck based on the die breaks. But my feeling is that it's a copy.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Well I know the metal missing is not normal it looks like it was filed or rubbed off. Weight is right on the money for the amount of "wear" 202.2 gr (all I have is a powder scale)it is under 6 Grains different from the issue weight of 208 gr. It does have most of the markings on the rim but it does look like it was used a lot in the day by maybe tapping it on a table as a nervous habit or maybe it was a lucky piece during poker games  I do trust the dealer he is (was) well known in the area for his expertise in error coins. I know dealers have been fooled before but I am sure it is real. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2600 Posts |
I know very little about these so take this with a grain of salt. However, if you look at the dentals below 50 C. on the reverse, they appear to have been cut into the coin with a blade and the cut extends well into the field. After studying a few on Heritage these look totally incorrect. That said, it may be perfect but I am suspicious. I totally trusted my first wife, too. She was also well known. Jim   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2335 Posts |
I'm not an expert & can't comment on the dentals. I can say that I've seen plenty of bust halves with stars that are mis-shaped. Maybe Bonedigger will comment.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It appears to be genuine to me. Check the edge lettering and post a picture if you can. The reverse "wear" could be damage but it is on the highest devices.
Net grade VG08. 1809 mintage was nearly 1.5 million so it is a common date. I would value this coin around $75.
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Valued Member
United States
85 Posts |
Here is the best rim shot that I could get   |
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Valued Member
United States
259 Posts |
looks real to me. the oddness with the dentils and the elongation of the stars are both results of die wear.
as far as the uneven rub on the reverse... no idea. Neat coin, though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have to agree some type of abrasive was used (for some ridiculous reason) on the eagle.  Normal wear also would have affected the the outer lettering as well. But they look great! The obverse also looks abraded on the center figure. The date, stars and lettering look great but the figure is excessively worn. Weird! |
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Valued Member
United States
85 Posts |
Yea it's a weird coin but I couldn't resist, darn impulse buys. It must have a story behind it and all I can do is imagine what it is, but that is part of the mystique of this 200 year old coin coin. What would even be better is if I could find out if it has an Overton Number  |
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