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Possible 1936 Dot Penny With A Tilt Hub Doubled Dot

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This coin has now entered the court room for the deliberation to the
Coin Judges and Jury!!

Going back to the 1978 Canadian Nickle Dollar that Ken Potter did an article on and explained how the tilt hub doubling of the Tree branch ended up just above the luggage of the canoe. There was a slight shift of the lower branch.
Now I want you to compare this 1936 penny with a large raised dot in between the bottom of the 3 and the 6. So it might be possible the upper dot (bead) of the date tilt hub doubled to the bottom of the date. The dot (bead) look almost the same size and shifted and very similar to the 1978 dollar.
I think this coin has to be looked at closer and examined in hand by a reputable expert, just my thinking.
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Over my head, but sounds interesting!
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Like the scores of other "dot" on a '36 that we've had shown on here, this again is not a '36 dot, regardless how it got there. It's in the wrong place, the wrong size, and this one looks like one of the "applied" ones that were rolling around 10 or so years ago. An interesting coin that you should keep as an anomaly, but I'll let others remark. I see how no "tilt doubling" could have happened here.
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okiecoiner thanks for your response!!

I want to give a history of this coin. In my home town back in the 1960s the local hotel owner had it and its been out of circulation since then. The word got out that I'm the local coin guy and they approached me with it for an opinion. I did warn them that it will take a few bullets but in a positive motion forward. In the past I did own 5 of those 1978 dollars and know it very well. I think the best thing in the future is to send this coin into PCGS so they can properly examine and attribute it if its a real coin variety. Remember it still might be a fake. When I examined the coin tilt hub doubling instantly came as a possibility.
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If you send it to a TPG, it's going to cost you fairly large bucks to find out that it isn't what you wish for .... probably $50 or more.

https://www.coinsandcanada.com/coin...nt-1920-1936
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Apples and oranges Bill. This post was never about the 1936 Pittman specimen dot coins. This is about potential hub doubling while sinking the reverse die.

Chad - have you thought about reaching out to Ken Potter directly?
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Yes I have thought about it, we think the same and he is the guy to examine this coin. He knows his stuff!! Have to let our worlds settle back to normal and give it a month from now.
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June 02, 2009 -- This month's lead coin in Ken Potter's World Coin News column, Visiting Varieites, is a very interesting doubled die shown on a Canadian 1978 proof-like nickel dollar. According to Potter, "Steve Olter of Michigan sent it in asking what I though of the raised area found on the reverse Voyageur design. The area in question is found on the island fairly well centered between the Indian and fur trader that the Mint refers to a "voyageur." At first glance it was clear that it did not exhibit the usual characteristics of a die dent, die gouge or die break. It was smooth and rounded as if it has been hubbed there as a part of the design. Since it certainly did not belong there and had to be a displaced area of "extra design" from an early hubbing I determined that it was just a matter of examining the coin to find out were the point of origin of the secondary design was. In short order I found the most probable answer. The extra design appears to fit well within the confines and shape of the lowermost left branch of the left evergreen tree."
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