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Authenticating Counterstamped Coins

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Hi all,

I'm interested in starting to pick up some vintage (i.e. 1800s) counterstamped coins. I find the intersection between coin and history fascinating.

However, what would stop people from making a modern counterstamp and stamping vintage coins? If I wanted, say, a Parisian Varieties half dollar, how do I make sure the stamp is really vintage? Are there tells to look for in wear patterns?
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I have collected them as well for years alongside early American tokens. I look closely at the font and compare it with known pieces. Rulau's books can be a little help here with known dates of examples although his is incomplete. But just like all numismatic items you really need to examine the surfaces. I ended up at auction mostly in acquiring them. It's a fun area to learn about early American history. Here is the example I have of the Parisian Varieties c/s.

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I will add one more. This piece was part of a lottery that later turned out to be a scam. It's an interesting read..

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Both very nice and original-looking.
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Coins are the hardware of history.
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@ The Silver Searcher .... As Cointagous points out, comparing c/s pics, thereby comparinging font styles, measurements, alignment, spacing and such with known specimens, is the best way to assess genuine issues. You can best find pics for comparison c/s's at major auction archives, like Heritage and Stack's. Reference books by Brunk & Rulau are must-haves, methinks.

I've written many dozens of articles on c/s's for the National Token Association, the Civil War Token Society and a variety of other numismatic publications. The Sage c/s article that Cointagous mentioned was one of mine. One of the reasons for my writing about c/s's is to get pics published, so collectors can see what these rarely issues look like. Also, you can see many c/s's on the CCF threads, some of which I've posted.

To my knowledge, NGC and other TPG's don't authenticate c/s's. If a c/s'd coin/token is slabbed, their authentication only pertains to the coin/token. That said, I've rarely encountered a faked c/s. One that immediately comes to mind was a crudely misaligned replication of a VOTE THE LAND FREE c/s. As a rule of sorts, I generally avoid buying c/s's that were created with individual letter punches, resulting in misalignment as such.
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