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1882 Counterfeit Mexican 8R Again

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I found another seller posting the common 1882 Counterfeit 8R as real. He has 6 examples posted all dated 1882 all from the same dies. How often would that happen? Here is the first 1882
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-Reales-Mexica...mZ8405034492

So I also checked his other coins and most are known Chinese forgeries. Some have clues but none are slam dunks like the 1882's. He does actually mix in a few real coins. The original coins that he sells - like the pair of Frence coins (10F and 20F) have a starting price of $9.99 plus shipping - but they are worth perhaps a buck.
http://cgi.ebay.com/French-Coins-Go...mZ8404763597

Or another real bargain which you could find in any junk box,
http://cgi.ebay.com/French-Coins-Go...mZ8403319645

I read through all of his adds and they are at best deceptive in the wording. I have written to him - but I spotted the first one a bit too late to report him to ebay. He has some on Buy It Now that I will report if he takes no action.

He also has posted an interesting Chinese Sycee ingot - looks awful but how do you prove it is a fake? Perhaps the fact that he is selling 5 ounces of silver for under $20 might be a clue?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Coins-Yu...mZ8402363901

I have to be fair - he does sell some copies that are clearly marked "COPY" but even there his wording is on the odd side.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Coins-Th...mZ8404994086

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I'm not impressed with his ebay Store. Most of his stuff is not particularly collectible and anyone who buys anything from China is asking for trouble. It almost looks like he got suckered himself into buying a lot of that junk and is just trying to peddle it to get rid of it. Also, on that 1804 Bust Dollar, he is in violation of ebay's Terms of Service by not listing "Copy" or "Reproduction" in the title.
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I got an answer from the seller George. Here is his reply -

Dear Bob,
Thank you for the information. I was not aware. I looked them up in the 1993 issue of the STANDARD CATALOG OF WORLD COINS. I was looking for reference info., not to authenticate them. I do appreciate the information and will have them checked out. After that, I'll contact the place where I purchased them and see what they know.
Best wisher,
George

Perhaps, Fred, you are right this guy may have been taken himself. But I still can't see selling 5 ounces of silver for a shipped price of around $20. I will bet he does not terminate anything.







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