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1923 Peace Dollar - Help With VAM - Shortened Ray

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 Posted 02/01/2025  7:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CentR to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is there a known 1923 VAM with a shortened ray on the reverse? I couldn't find it.

The shortened ray is due to extensive die correction, filing etc. presumably to resolve an issue like a clash. There looked to be some clash remnants, like east of the lower olive branch so I was wondering if I'm missing it because it's a later corrected stage of another VAM that is a known clash and that clash is hard to see?


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 Posted 02/02/2025  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UnimpossibIe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VAM-1BQ Perhaps?

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VAM-1DL appears to have the same Reverse, but also has two strong ray clashes at Liberty's forehead.

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 Posted 02/02/2025  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you!
I have a naive question. The die file lines are more extensive than the VAM-1BQ reference image. So much so that the top of the ray is missing. Is that how the VAM naming convention would apply in this case? Where the VAM designation (1BQ) not only refers to the state shown in the reference image, it also refers to later stages that have had additional die corrections?
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Nice find. Dr. Close estimates there are at least 300 die marriages for 1923, so it can be tough to single out especially from photos. It does appear to be heavily clashed at about +5° rotation. That would put the shoulder spike exactly where the ray appears to be shortened by filing.

I would get some close images of all the file lines and post them over at VAMWorld for feedback.
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