Question About Star Note Data In BEP Tables

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TheSerialFlorist Valued Member United States 116 Posts	Posted 03/05/2025 5:13 pm hello all I have a few questions about the attached tables from the BEP website 1) Highlighted in the blue box, the serial numbers reported for the 2017A G-E and G-F blocks for Jan and Feb 2023 are exactly the same. Is this right? 2) Highlighted in the red box, it looks like they skipped serial numbers from 069 to 096 and also 108.8 to 128. Any insight as to why? They've done that once in a while in the past for star notes, do they ever skip numbers like that for non-star notes?. --- 3) In the above table, the star notes (light green boxes right side) were printed two months before the first production B-A production notes, light green left side. Does that imply that the start of the B-A run needed to be replaced? Is there any correlation between the star note serial number and the serial number of the bills they are replacing? 4) what happens if replacement notes need to be replaced, how are the serial numbers determined? Edited by TheSerialFlorist 03/05/2025 7:16 pm Report this Post to the Staff

BadDog Pillar of the Community United States 1374 Posts	Posted 03/08/2025 2:17 pm Quote: ...I have a few questions about the attached tables from the BEP website It doesn't look like that table is from the BEP's website. It does look similar to the tables that are found at https://www.uspapermoney.info, but those tables haven't been updated for nearly 5 years. Where did you see these tables It's best to go to BEP's production data website at https://www.bep.gov/currency/produc...tion-reports for currency printing information. It currently is only showing production reports through Sep 2024, but newer reports are usually, eventually posted. The Jan 23 report on that website does not show any 2017-A $1 FRNs for the Chicago FRB being printed. The Feb 23 report does agree with what's being shown in your table. Also, the Jan 23 report doesn't show any G_* notes printed that month. It's not unusual for the BEP to skip serial numbers in printing * notes. AFAIK, only they know why they do this. It's also not unusual for the BEP to print a FRB's * notes before they actually print the regular notes. I guess they want them on hand as replacements if something goes wrong with the regular production notes. Finally, * notes are not replaced with other * notes. If something goes wrong with the * note printing, they're just destroyed and others are printed. It appears that wherever you got the table from has some incorrect information in it Edited by BadDog 03/08/2025 2:32 pm Report this Post to the Staff
TheSerialFlorist Valued Member United States 116 Posts	Posted 03/08/2025 9:55 pm thanks very helpful! this is the site I've used https://www.uspapermoney.io/serials and yeah looks like most data match but Jan 24 does not match BEP. Report this Post to the Staff
BadDog Pillar of the Community United States 1374 Posts	Posted 03/09/2025 06:52 am Thanks for the website address. Looks like this is the old https://www.uspapermoney.info site, but after COVID it was changed to https://www.uspapermoney.io. I didn't know that I went ahead and sent the administrator a note letting him know about the Feb 23 data being duplicated in Jan 23. He's pretty good about making corrections quickly Report this Post to the Staff
BStrauss3 Pillar of the Community United States 4587 Posts	Posted 03/09/2025 10:47 am Yep. most likely it was a typo, the transcription is manual. IIRC the old site was hosted or (or maybe the email address was) through his work computer and during COVID/beyond he lost access to it. The About pages are basically identical except for the site name https://www.uspapermoney.info/about.html https://www.uspapermoney.io./about.html but that's not correct. .info was registered to and hosted by nearlyfreespeech.net in 2004. .io in 2021 through cloudflare https://www.whois.com/whois/uspapermoney.info https://www.whois.com/whois/uspapermoney.io -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ Report this Post to the Staff
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