Help With Greek Coin Classification

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simone1978 Valued Member Italy 220 Posts	Posted 03/06/2025 09:21 am Good morning I have this coin with a horse on the back it is very heavy but I can't classify it can someone help me? Greetings Simone Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34396 Posts	Posted 03/06/2025 10:09 am @sim, looks a bit like a mash-up of Syracuse and Carthage. Also, I'm not really liking the porous surfaces of this piece. Can you please post a couple images of the edge to this thread? Thx. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
simone1978 Valued Member Italy 220 Posts	Posted 03/06/2025 11:20 am Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34396 Posts	Posted 03/06/2025 12:58 pm Ok thx for that additional information. I think that your piece is based off of this Siculo-Punic Tetradrachm: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=13964889 I don't know if there were AE versions made, but even if so, I'm concerned that yours is a cast fake. Hopefully others will be around to help support or refute this. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16808 Posts	Posted 03/07/2025 08:18 am This coin is absolutely, definitely, positively not a genuine ancient coin, sorry. The anceints weren't silly enough to make copper and silver coins with the same design - even they would have realized that doing so would have merely made a counterfeiter's job easier. Further, besides the very "mushy" appearance that's distinctive of a cast replica, the "patina" on this coin is simply wrong. A genuine ancient copper coin has a deep, crusty patina with no raw metal showing underneath it. This coin is raw metal, except for a light dusting of verdigris. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3343 Posts	Posted 03/07/2025 11:32 am Based on its size, crudity and metal, I thought it might be a late Carthage trishekel. But the design matches the early tetradrachm Spence linked, not the later coins. Compared to authentic late Carthage AE coins, the color is wrong and it's way too big. It looks very similar to this item listed on ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1868294275...oin&LH_BIN=1 "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 03/08/2025 11:22 am Report this Post to the Staff
livingwater Pillar of the Community United States 2214 Posts	Posted 03/08/2025 11:39 am Yup, modern fake. That ebay seller has a lot fakes. Report this Post to the Staff
simone1978 Valued Member Italy 220 Posts	Posted 03/09/2025 06:05 am Thank you very much for your answers, unfortunately I am not a coin collector, I came across them in a lot of stamps Report this Post to the Staff
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