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What's your thought?   Edited by Odee13
04/17/2025 8:04 pm
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AU55 with a typical weak obverse strike. Reverse looks unc but the obverse looks devoid of luster.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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You are not wrong in that assessment. Obverse definitely lacking luster and pulling it down but I still have it slightly higher personally.
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I was thinking of AU58 but I asked myself if only the high points were rubbed. On this coin it seems like most of the obverse surface, especially throughout most of the cheek looks rubbed, removing the luster. Fwiw, that was how I got to 55.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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AU sounds right.
Errers and Varietys.
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Looks like somebody dipped it to get rid of that fingerprint and in reality got rid of the luster. I give it no grade.
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How would you dip the coin so that it retains all the reverse luster and removes all the obverse luster?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Thanks for the analysis student, makes sense. Also agree on luster still there in reverse. I will post a few more pictures.
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It looks more lustrous in the obverse in your new pictures. The area by the jaw and the area to the left of the ear looks rubbed still. The coin looks very pretty with the colorful toning. reverse also looks well struck for an 85o.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Panzaldi said I need to stop taking pictures directly under a light so these new pictures are hopefully better
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Panzaldi said I need to stop taking pictures directly under a light so these new pictures are hopefully better good job on the second set of photos. use that in the future. the 85(O)'s are outside the sad strike years for the no mint which started on 86 through 97. typically see these with average strikes. the reverse strike is actually better than avg for the year. the luster appears to be subdued or broken in places. lots of finger/palm prints on the coin. which don't affect grade but would affect value. the overall look of the coin says to me that it may have been dipped at some point but all the chemicals were not removed I'm at AU55 but value wise I think closer to lower AU |
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Appreciate the breakdown panzaldi.
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Posted 04/17/2025 8:12 pm
