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Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2647 Posts	Posted 05/07/2025 06:07 am I wonder if anyone could narrow this down a bit further. The reverse seems double struck so that doesn't help much unless you know what you are specifically looking for but the obverse seems to suggest a "O" character at 5 o'clock. None of the the more common deniers of Achaea seems to fit - list below Denier - William II :+:G•PRINCEPS. Charles I d'Anjou + • K • R • PRINC' ACh' Florent de Hainaut - +: FLORENS: P: ACh: Isabella + YSABELLA. P. ACh Philip I of Savoy + + DE CLARENCIA + Philip II + PHS. P. ACh TAR. Mathilde de Hainaut + mAhAVTA. P. ACh' John of Gravina "+Ioh'S PACh'E" The only option on Numista that seems to have an "O" character at 5 o'clock is the 1 Denier Tornese - Martin Zaccaria - but it doesn't seem to work elsewhere either. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces192699.html Happy to hear any suggestions Report this Post to the Staff

jbuck Moderator United States 164145 Posts	Posted 05/07/2025 4:32 pm Outside by expertise, but nice example! Coin Collector Since 1978 My Avatar My Old Avatar My 7070 My Eisenhower Dollars CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16337 Posts	Posted 05/07/2025 6:56 pm Not Crusader, but of the French types from which the Crusader coins were imitations - the reverse around the cross gives the mint-city: TVRONVS CIVI, city of Tours. Reverse SCS MARTINVS, Saint Martin - this is an ecclesiastical French coin, from the Abbey of St Martin of Tours. a more legible CGB auction example. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2647 Posts	Posted 05/08/2025 03:28 am Thanks very much Sap - that's really helpful. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 164145 Posts	Posted 05/08/2025 08:38 am Thank you, Sap! Coin Collector Since 1978 My Avatar My Old Avatar My 7070 My Eisenhower Dollars CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5044 Posts	Posted 05/16/2025 4:34 pm The original "denier tournois" that gave the name to the denomination, it seems. Very interesting coin! Even if it's not Crusader. Report this Post to the Staff
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