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Possible 1936 Lincoln Cent DDO FS-103 Example 1

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 Posted 05/18/2025  7:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PlutonianFire to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would very much appreciate thoughtful feedback for four 1936 Lincoln cents that I believe may be FS-103. For each coin, I am uploading several photos including the date, LIBERTY and the broken left leg of R die marker, IGWT and a reverse die marker for the late die state (die dot under S of STATES).

In making presumptive determinations, I used information from VarietyVista, Wexler, CopperCoins and several photos of PCGS-graded circulated examples of the 1936 Lincoln DDO FS-103 shown on the PCGS website.

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First,

For this coin, would you be willing to post whole-coin obverse and reverse photos?

Thanks!
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Looks normal to me. I don't think it's FS-103. There's no doubling would be clear doubling in Liberty and in IGWT.
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"For this coin, would you be willing to post whole-coin obverse and reverse photos?

Thanks"


Please see attached photos. Thank you.

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Did you look?

Please see attached photos with arrows.

Thank you.


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Thanks for posting the additional photos. This is definitely not DDO-003. It has the intact "R" in LIBERTY. I wanted the complete photos because the die polishing in the original photos made me think it might match what I saw on a minor 1936 DDR that I keep finding. It isn't that one, either. Just a normal 1936 cent.
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On the 1936 FS-103 / DD0-003 / 1-DO-003 / WDDO-003 the key pickup point is the broken "R" in LIBERTY. The "R" is broken all the way to where the left leg of the "R" connects to the loop of the "R." For comparison, here are the "R" in LIBERTY on two of the DDO-003's I found. You will see the difference between these and your coins.

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"On the 1936 FS-103 / DD0-003 / 1-DO-003 / WDDO-003 the key pickup point is the broken "R" in LIBERTY. The "R" is broken all the way to where the left leg of the "R" connects to the loop of the "R." For comparison, here are the "R" in LIBERTY on two of the DDO-003's I found. You will see the difference between these and your coins."
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FortCollins, Thanks for your very helpful comments ... and your patience!
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Don't give up and don't lose heart. Keep looking. They are out there.

I am still going through a huge quantity of wheat cents I purchased from three separate estates a couple years ago. I've looked through over 3,000 1936 cents to date. I have found 8 of the DDO-003, 3 of the DDO-002, and none of the DDO-001 (that one is truly rare). The minor doubled dies and most of the doubled die reverses are fairly common. I will say that on heavily circulated coins (AG/G), DDO-003 is more subtle, because the lettering wears down enough to make the doubling difficult to spot. Even then, the letters will be much thicker than usual.

If you have the chance, gather a good number of 1936 cents and spend time looking at each die pairing. You will start to see the issues the mint had during that year, with overworked dies, extensive die clash polishing, metal alloy issues, and strike quality. You will also start identifying die pairings that you see frequently, recognizable by their die polishing and die markers that will start to look familiar after a while. Take the time to look for the minor DDOs and DDRs. Over time, this experience will help you sort through the coins more quickly. You will start to give nicknames to the die pairings that you see frequently.

Again, welcome here. Keep posting, hang out on the boards, and keep learning. We are all learners together on here.
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