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Errers and Varietys.
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05/20/2025 12:36 pm
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@e&v, while this coin is a specific variety, it seems like your question is more directed to the condition and grade so I'm going to move this thread over to that sub.
Sorry that I can't help you with a grade. The ding at 12 o'clock is unfortunate, but hopefully not too extreme to prevent straight-grading.
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Nice coin for the price, Errers. I'm not sure that it would straight-grade - some of the scratches seem intentional.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Thank you, Spence, numismatics student, and Hondo Boguss. Not sure if it'll straight grade, since there's old scratches and a ding at 12:00. I'm still happy to own it either way.
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Any more thoughts about the grade? Will it straight grade or not?
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I'd grade it VG10 details net AG3 to G4. My early coppers are not encapsulated, so not an expert here, but, as far as I understand TPG criteria, this coin would not straight grade. It shows a fair bit of surface distractions which they would possibly describe as 'damage'. Note am 1831 N-12/1, R-2 sold this WE at the EAC sale: https://www.icollector.com/1831-N-1...G4_i56080610 |
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This could straight grade but given the value of the coin, it would not be a good candidate for grading. The fees would exceed the value of the coin even in a straight graded holder.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Thank you both for your comments. I don't plan on getting it slabbed by a TPG. GERMANICVS, so it'll grade VG details, but the net grade is AG3 to G4? Just trying to understand it better. Errers and Varietys.
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Thank you, panzaldi for your comment.  I appreciate it. Errers and Varietys.
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one was remember that copper is fairly soft so it doesn't take much to take hits and marks banging around in a pocket with other coins for decades. could it grade straight? I think its just too much even in that lower grade. the almost hole at K12 could have been intentional in an attempt to make a necklace as well as some of the marks near the rim in the fields from K4-K7 obv could be intentional as well. they don't look like typical marks from getting knocked around. there's a lot of history here.
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