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Advice Requested: Crossover CAC >> PCGS

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 Posted 06/09/2025  01:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Theharsh98 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Howdy!

Get ready for the dude who is just learning coins to start questioning grades / thinking he knows more, lol.

Long-story short, submitted some coins to PCGS last year. Overall decent experience, but the cost and length of grading time pushed me to try CAC's new grading service. Good experience with some coins, great price, nice turnaround times, but three negative outcomes:


1. At least in comparison to some PCGS-slabbed coins, some of the grades seemed (unreasonably) strict,

2. There were a few details grades I really didn't expect (just seemed a bit harsh), and

3. There was a variety they just altogether didn't recognize (may have been my bad; PCGS recognizes 1969-D 1C No-FG but I don't think it's officially a Red Book variety).


Now I know everyone walks into getting graded with higher expectations than outcomes, these just seemed a bit extra low, lol. So, I'm thinking of submitting for crossover (or breaking out and resubmitting raw) to PCGS. That said, here are my questions:


1. For the non-details graded coins, my assumption would be to, generally, submit the slabbed CAC coins as-is with the minimum grade whatever would make sense per Greysheet. Is that accurate?

2. For the details graded coins, is it better to submit as-is (slabbed) or break out and submit raw? I have trouble with the idea of crossover for this reason in general, but especially with a details grade, I wonder whether a PCGS grader would grade with a bit more scrutiny if they noticed someone else had previously marked details?


I could be overthinking these, but would love any experiential input. If I'm just setting myself up for disappointment, absolutely appreciative of that feedback as well.

Thanks!
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I would crack out any coins that received a details grade and submit to PCGS as raw.
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Could we get some pics of the details coins you want to submit?
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#1 - Sounds like you're unhappy with the CACG grades on non-details coins. If you submit them in their CACG holder you cannot specify a higher minimum grade so they would essentially be crack-out & grade not cross-over. Just something to consider.

#2 - The details graded pieces should definitely be cracked out prior to submission.

It sounds like you want to start from scratch and hope for better results. If you're willing to risk losing the CACG grades (that you're not happy with anyway right?) then crack them all and send them to PCGS raw. Just my 2 cents worth. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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