Poland 1598 3 Groschen Value? - Coin Community Forum

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Author	Replies: 7 / Views: 2,918
malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 06/04/2009 02:46 am I posted this little lovely coin about a year ago and decided I would give it another try in case maybe some one there has some new catalogs since then. I know it is a polish 3 groschen but we were never able to get a good estimate of value or grade really. There were some guesses of VF but I am wondering if maybe the actual minting process has lowered that some since I cant see it being that worn when you can still see all the little tiny details in his hair. I could be wrong of course. lol thanks for any help out there. malissa Report this Post to the Staff

QuickSilver Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1077 Posts	Posted 06/04/2009 03:08 am Extremely hard to put a grade on something that old, and hammered. Impossible to tell what is wear and what is transfered from the die. personally I see very little actual wear at all. It is very uneven, having low and high spots but I think that is more from the minting process? Wear would be more even across the coin surely? Especially on such a high relief coin. A beautiful coin. Sorry, I would not have a clue on value. Report this Post to the Staff
malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 06/04/2009 04:24 am thank you for your input quicksilver. These older coins can really get under my skin sometimes. lol I have no guides to refer to that run older than 1900 so I am in the dark a lot of the time Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 06/04/2009 12:00 pm malissadawn- nice coin. Out of curiosity, how did you acquire this coin? Do you have any idea of its provenance? I would say EF(or better) for this coin since you can see the texture of the King's hair. This detail just would not be there on a really circulated hammered coin. In fact, this detail wouldn't be there on most upper-grade hammered coins. Report this Post to the Staff
xshift Pillar of the Community United States 2669 Posts	Posted 06/04/2009 12:16 pm coinarchives.com has a Poland 3 Grosze from January that sold for 110 USD: http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvi...=475&Lot=506 The details are very different on it. (Are grosze and groschen the same? if not that could be why the wording and details are different) Report this Post to the Staff
DagonX Valued Member Poland 392 Posts	Posted 06/04/2009 6:13 pm In my Kopicki Catalog this type of "trojak" (3 grosze/groschen) has rank "R2" (3001-15000 known) and value 40z³-100z³ (about 126$-316$). Mint - Poznañ. Report this Post to the Staff
malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 06/04/2009 6:24 pm Quote: Out of curiosity, how did you acquire this coin? I am not all the way sure where I got it. Could have been passed down through other family coin collections? Quote: (about 126$-316$) Thank you for your pricing help. It is a wide range though between prices. So what would you do? Somewhere in the middle maybe? Though I guess it would kind of suck to price it at $150 if it is actually worth $300. I did do some reading this morning on the advice of my previous post where someone told me who the person on the coin is. But I got interrupted so will have to do some more reading this evening. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16837 Posts	Posted 06/04/2009 6:50 pm Old thread, for reference. Quote: The details are very different on it. (Are grosze and groschen the same? if not that could be why the wording and details are different) Yep, groze is Polish, groschen is German, but they mean the same thing: "large". The English equivalent was the groat. Of course, with inflation, the groschen/grosz wasn't quite as large as it used to be. The differences are very typical of coins of the period. Remember, these dies are being hand-made, by different people at different times and mints. No two dies looked identical. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
	Replies: 7 / Views: 2,918

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

All Forums Category: World Coins and Currency Forums Forum: World Coins and Commemoratives

The First Dollar, your premier source for bullion and rare coins. See our bullion list on the site and the coin inventory on ebay.

Silver Gold Bull US is the United States leading bullion dealer. We deliver gold coins, gold bars, silver coins, silver bars and precious metals to your door. Order today!

View Last 100 Active Topics

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us | Advertise Here | Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum

It took 0.26 seconds to rattle this change.