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Think These Are Real Coins On The Lid Of Box? Help Needed

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The label reads "a collective association of industrial producers, people and artists"
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It if was cheap I'd pick it up just to have the fake coins.


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I wonder if the other sides have impressions or are blank?
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the description reads box decorate with old coins and its a established auctionhouse. curiositys this. I think I see reeding


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Seeing the Cepelia logo brings back memories of my first trip to Poland in the Communist era. Their products showed up a lot in the high end tourist shops. Here is their story: https://culture.pl/en/article/cepel...polish-homes

If the coins on the second box are real (I supect they are replicas), it's at least $25,000 if they werent glued. The two Wladyslaw IV thalers are around $3,000 each. The Courland thaler (reverse at lower left, obverse farther to right on same row) $1000 - 1500.

That's another feature that makes me think they are replicas. 8 of the coins on that second box are (or appear to be) obverse-reverse pairs (the Wladyslaw IV thaler, the Courland thaler, the Augustus III thaler and the Stanislaw thaler). Hard to beleive that someone had not one, but 2 of each of those to glue to a box.

BUT ... as I understand it, there was no real retail numismatic market in pre-1990 Poland for historic coins like these. Maybe the best someone could do if they were in a tight spot and needed to raise some cash was make them into a pricey piece of folk art?
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Interesting background Tdz, than you for providing it. Yes these are tricky, as you said I find it hard to believe these where faked behind the Iron curtain. But also hard to think they put real coins in. I have seen serveral of these boxes all have the same design. But never seende them inhand
Maybe they just split the coins in half
Depending on the price I might pick it up just to find out.
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Interesting background Tdz, than you for providing it.


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Depending on the price I might pick it up just to find out.
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Looking again at that label, I think I see "Cena ... 218" which should mean the price was 218 Zl (back in the mid-1970s).

That doesn't seem like a heckuva lot of money if those really were collectible coins (I remember that a tram ride or a bottle of beer in a store was just 2 or 3 zloty back then).



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I've seen a set of British coins mounted on a board similar to this. REALLY convincing but the whole shooting match was one piece of cast epoxy resin!
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It turns out this item is 2km from me, I will try to check it out and take photos today. This mystery will be solved :)
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Looking forward to your report, Moniker. I hope that you can get this for cheap!
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Well I dont know If these photos are helpfull. I was there 5mins before closing and in a hurry, atleast they dont are to be magnetic.
Im not familiar with these typ of coins

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I don't think that they are real. What are they asking for it?
Here is the Numista link for the klippe: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces127817.html
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i think it will go for 3-400 dollars
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3-400 dollars

That's insane! Someone is in for a very rude awakening.
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follow up it went for 1550 us dollars
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