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Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1819 Posts	Posted 09/11/2025 1:28 pm So I figure these are faked alot, only 10000 minted, weight around 21 on kitchenscale acording to seller. not my pics, glad for help Edited by Moniker 09/11/2025 1:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff

HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 25049 Posts	Posted 09/11/2025 2:05 pm I would stay away from that one, Moniker. Details on the reverse seem a bit mushy, and "weight around 21 on kitchenscale" is not good enough for me. This is a coin that you would have to examine in hand. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1819 Posts	Posted 09/11/2025 3:57 pm thank you Hondu, yes looks a little bit soft, here is a real one, they do seem kind of weak on the reverse in the details and another of the reverse of the one for sale Edited by Moniker 09/11/2025 4:02 pm Report this Post to the Staff
joe_77 Valued Member Italy 284 Posts	Posted 09/12/2025 02:39 am For comparison a worn out example: https://shop.moruzzi.it/admin/img_u...130359_2.jpg Here also a lot of pics of other 1936 and a confirmed fake (the very last): https://numismatica-italiana.lamone...eta/W-VE3/42 I don't like the specimen presented (the rim for one) and too soft. I would stay away. Report this Post to the Staff
Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1819 Posts	Posted 09/12/2025 03:37 am thank you Joe very helpfull, I agree the rim looks suspect and the torchs top and the end of ground above the R Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21593 Posts	Posted 09/12/2025 06:52 am Also the fingers of the left hand are missing from the staff she is holding. Definitely a counterfeit. Report this Post to the Staff
Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1819 Posts	Posted 09/12/2025 07:10 am yes thats what I mean, but I have seen them worn down on orginals, high point, so they are tricky here is a ms61 from heritage (how 61:) Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 09/12/2025 07:18 am I'll pass. The color alone makes me stay away. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
Moniker Pillar of the Community Sweden 1819 Posts	Posted 09/13/2025 03:59 am for future references Diagnostic Tips: Most counterfeit examples of this type are older transfer die fakes. While they are pretty high quality, they often have spikes emerging from the reeding. good thread thanks for all your help Report this Post to the Staff
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