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I've been trying to identify the variety on this 1787 MBL Connecticut. After going through huge numbers of certified examples at heritage the only exact match I can find for the Obv/Rev is what NGC has pictured as the 78/87, which I'm sure is not this. What variety would have the same die pair match, but not an overdate? Thanks for any assistance. Weight: 7.01 grams Diameter: 27.5 mm Edit: Appears to be an exact match to an M 12-Q 78/87. Now seeing M 12-Q certified but without the 78/87 designation. But one on ebay that is you can't see the overdate any better than you could on mine if it is there. All the M 12-Qs at Heritage have W-2885 designations also.  Edited by Bdlc
09/17/2025 10:07 am
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Interesting piece.   |
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That's definitely a 12-Q, it has the diagnostic die break through the B on the reverse. The condition of the coin and the die state just make the overdate difficult to see. I can see part of the 7 under the 8.
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Thanks @lcutler. I've been staring at 12-Qs all day, I think I see a little nitch of an 8 under the 7 at the bottom. But now I think I'm just seeing things. And many others of higher grade I see you can't always make out parts of the overdate. Thankfully there's details both obverse and reverse easy to see that only exist on the 12-Q. Thanks again for the confirmation.
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There aren't that many IN DE (separated by the branch hand) reverse dies in the 1787 CT series; the P and the Q, and both are single-use marriages for the respective dies
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09/17/2025 7:23 pm
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Yes @oldgrouchyguy. First thing I looked for was the low period after the I on obverse. Then from there it was easy with the reverse having so much uniqueness. It was a fun exercise tracking this one down.
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Bdlc: I had to know things like this cold; I saw dealers get (unhappy) when (someone we knew) would pull out a book to look up a colonial coin, then close the book and ask for a discount, sometimes on a $50 item! The IN DE is just easy to figure out
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09/17/2025 9:01 pm
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They are fun to attribute. At first I was kind of put off by the sheer number of varieties, with only minor punctuation differences between a lot of them. They're really not that bad once you get into them though, and what other series can you get R5 coins for under $50!
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Yes @lcutler. I love the pre-1800 copper coinage. It is fun and exhausting to page through hundreds of images at Heritage to try and match your new coin. I have another Connecticut incoming that I've spent 2 days trying to match and can't. I'll be posting it here in a week or so for some help from you guys. It has somewhat unique obverse that did not match anything else on ebay, so I grabbed it for $34 and it's in decent enough shape to attribute.. But between Heritage, ebay, and NGC Explorer I can't find what I think is a match. |
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I'lll be glad to help if I can.
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Thanks. You and @Oldgrouchyguy have been very helpful.
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