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1799 Draped Bust Eagle (Not My Coin)

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 Posted 10/07/2025  11:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I recently saw this coin up for auction. It's not my coin, I didn't bid on it, but I liked it. It seems that something is kind of off to me. How would you grade it? And do you think this coin is overgraded? Or messed with somehow?

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Definitely messed with or doctored somehow. Nearly all are from this type. But eye appeal is still good. There is uncirculated detail but the field luster is broken. AU-58, but I wouldn't he surprised to see MS-61.
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 Posted 10/08/2025  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Jacrispies, for getting this started. I see some work on the eagle's cheek. I also see some wear on the obverse, specifically above the eye, above the top hair curl, and also on the very bottom curl and the drapery nearby. I'm not revealing the grade yet, but I would have guessed AU(55). Am I being too harsh?
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Looks like it was cleaned at some point.
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Thanks for those of you who gave your opinions on this one. Here is the slab. PCGS called it AU(58). Do you think this is fair? I thought I saw wear on the eagle's cheek, on the drapery, and on the cap above Liberty's eye. I was thinking this was like an AU(55) coin. Is the "prooflike" luster a result of cleaning, though? Both opinions so far seem to think it's been messed with.


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 Posted 10/11/2025  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks undergraded to me at 58. I was thinking 62.
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