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...and the other one. All input appreciated  Edit: You posted before I could finish my edit, sorry! These would help:   Edited by MintedNotPrinted
10/19/2025 9:01 pm
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I agree with Adam. Fine details.
Errers and Varietys.
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VF Details, cleaned. I realize that without full LIBERTY on shield these fall out of VF, but in this example, the lettering seems to be washed out from hits rather than wear as most areas in the shield are too srong for F.
My first seated half was a 58-O. They can be found in higher grades for less than you would think if you are a little patient. These coins are a good grading learning experience that will help you going forward. Thanks for sharing.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
10/19/2025 9:29 pm
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Errers & Numismatic Student, thank you both!
Agreed on the learning experience, though I am actually happy with the feedback received on these, I think I got a good deal on the pair anyway. I certainly could've done far worse.
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I'd go with F details cleaned. just not enough there for a VF.
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 w/Marv65 not enough meat on the bones for VF F details |
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Cleaning aside, I do like the light circulation cameo.  |
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Thank you, everyone!
jbuck, agreed, of the choices I had available that's why I picked these two. The rest were polished shiny with no liberty visible.
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jbuck, agreed, of the choices I had available that's why I picked these two. The rest were polished shiny with no liberty visible. Given the choices, you did well then. My two Seated dollars are cleaned, but I like how they looked and they were in my budget.  |
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I'm in the middle on the grade, at F-15 details. On the obverse, the shield, head, and foot are just a bit more worn than I see for a VF, but there is better detail in the gown than F-12. The reverse is also a mixed bag, with a much sharper shield than F-12/F-15, but less detail in the eagle's right wing (our visual left) than I would expect for a VF.
I'm a little iffy on attribution of this coin. The reverse is clearly 1858-O Reverse D, with the key markers being the mm position and die chip adjacent to the wing in the notch under the eagle's right wing (our visual left). There are three uses of the reverse die, all mated with obverse dies with a different wildly mispunched "8" in or well above the last "8" in the date.
WB-5 has an "8" punched in the second fold from the bottom in the gown, There is a line in that general spot on your coin, but I think it is a scratch or other contact mark, rather than a remnant of an errant 8. WB-6 has a quadrupled last "8" in the date, and I don't see that on your coin.
WB-7, however, has an errant "8" protruding from the rock NNE of the second 8 in the date, and I do see something in that area that has the correct location and upward curve. That extra "8" fades with die state. Your coin's obverse die has to be MDS or LDS, because there is an evident clash between Liberty's arm and the gown below the elbow. Your coin's reverse die is definitely in LDS. because there is a weak die crack from the dentil through the "I" in UNITED to the eagle's right wing (our visual left). With those markers, I'm pretty sure your coin is WB-7. If so, the die marriage is obverse die 4 (the first use of this die) and reverse die D (the third and final use of this die). I'd urge you to compare your coin to Bill Bugert's photos.
Nice coin, Nice addition to your collection!
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10/20/2025 2:25 pm
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fortcollins, I cannot thank you enough! I was able to locate the guide, thanks to your responses, and will certainly do so. Just getting my bearings using the other coin you replied about as my reference. I'll post back with any updates.
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