Fake/Counterfeit 1907-S Philippines-Us Silver 1 Peso?

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Bdlc Valued Member United States 113 Posts	Posted 11/30/2025 08:06 am I just received this coin and in the process of authenticating it have come across a potential problem. Weight is 19.85 grams which is only .15 grams light of spec. Passes 3/3 markers for a Peace dollar on a Ping Test. But it measures 35.6mm wide, BraveAI says it is not possible for an authentic 1907-S Silver 1 Peso to be over 35mm in diameter. The ring sounds right for Silver, and it looks to clearly be a die-struck coin. These were 80/20 Silver/Copper whereas Peace dollars were 90/10, same ring. What gives? Added: When comparing this one to 3 graded MS examples on ebay, the hair and shoulder drapery on mine is missing detail, but that detail is also missing on the NGC graded one. Edited by Bdlc 11/30/2025 08:26 am Report this Post to the Staff

HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 24860 Posts	Posted 11/30/2025 09:53 am Bdlc, I pulled out one of my Philippines 1 Peso 1907-S and measured it. Weight is 19.81 g and diameter is 35.8 mm. It would seem that either both of our coins are fake or there is incorrect information somewhere. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Bdlc Valued Member United States 113 Posts	Posted 11/30/2025 10:32 am Thanks for pulling yours out Hondo. Yes, your coin has more luster but it appears to be the same in the hair and shoulder drapery. But... yours appears to have a belt of some kind with some sort of strap thing going from mid-waste down to center lower stomach that I do not see on any of the three certified examples. Report this Post to the Staff
HondoB Bedrock of the Community United States 24860 Posts	Posted 11/30/2025 11:22 am Quote: yours appears to have a belt of some kind with some sort of strap thing going from mid-waste down to center lower stomach That's a scratch. And the "luster" is just shine from an old cleaning. I bought it for the silver, not collector value. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures Report this Post to the Staff
Bdlc Valued Member United States 113 Posts	Posted 11/30/2025 12:47 pm Well, I took it over to a bullion dealer who put it on their machine and said it's silver. So, I guess the fact that yours is also a little wider than what search is showing for the coin gives me comfort. However, here is a side-by-side of the coin I received on the left, and the listing photo of the obverse on the right. Not the same coin. Edited by Bdlc 11/30/2025 1:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187446 Posts	Posted 11/30/2025 3:56 pm Quote: However, here is a side-by-side of the coin I received on the left, and the listing photo of the obverse on the right. Not the same coin. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94586 Posts	Posted 12/01/2025 10:13 am Some of that, that you circled, looks like damage to me. (at least 6 locations) Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Bdlc Valued Member United States 113 Posts	Posted 12/01/2025 11:00 am Yes, much of it is just damage. Showing difference in coin received compared to coin pictured in the listing. That's always a cause for concern. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94586 Posts	Posted 12/02/2025 07:14 am yeah, I can agree with that. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Oldgrouchyguy Pillar of the Community United States 630 Posts	Posted 12/12/2025 5:27 pm What does the edge look like? SF Mint milling, or... ? Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 12/12/2025 5:28 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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