Is CCCS As Good As ICCS?

I think that what Louis is getting at CCCS are collector's "keepers" rather than dealer items for resale. The REAL benefit of CCCS, aside from the tamperproof and superior holders, is the certification of varieties not in Charlton or Trends as well as a registration format .. neither offered by ICCS. These are benefits much more so for the collector than resale dealer. I think that large-scale certs by dealers are still going to ICCS .. the best known right now and usually better for resale right now as well. A few more important auctions with CCCS material and things may change, but things move slowly in the numismatic world (except RCM "errors" that skyrocket and then fall smoldering, and nearly worthless, to earth).

Dan, will let you know with pics when the coins come back...

I've finally had enough of ICCS, and I am a major ICCS fan. Three of the last four coins I've received have been overgraded, in my opinion. I've been willing to put up with a lack of website, email, and cert verification because ICCS has been so consistent and conservative in the past. The last straw was a coin with more than one distracting nick on the obverse, and serious rim roughness and quite a few bag marks on the reverse. This is an "MS-65" coin.

HHB, it is a no-brainer to me! However, as a CCCS supporter and customer, I may have a biased (a tad) opinion. CCCS is the way to go. Soft slab or hard slab, all of mine go to CCCS. :-)

hhb and mkb - I prefer not to post any pictures of the coin as it was bought in a private sale. The seller I bought the coin from has routinely sold me top notch coins though, so I don't hold it against him. I had it sitting on my desk earlier with a little natural light coming through the window, and the coin looked very good, probably MS-65 worthy. This makes me wonder about the lighting environment at ICCS, and if this very same situation happens during grading. The two obverse nicks I mentioned are incredibly distracting with a light directly over the coin, but nearly disappear with some ambient sunlight in the room.

I have coins graded by both in my opinion cccs is more with the times and very good service.

Hi everyone, I'm new too numismatics and was going to send a couple my coins to ICCS for grading. But not finding a website I was shocked.
However, I have done some information gathering and have been told by many local coin dealers that ICCS has at least 3 (sometimes 5) people grading the coin, then they toss out the highest and lowest grades leaving it an average of the remaining.

Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks
$0.02 Worth

2 centsworth .. As far as I know, there has never bben 5 graders at ICCS, even when they were at the top of the food chain. Unless I'm wrong entirely, there are only Brian and his son .. 2 max and their grading has been very "liberal" for the last couple years.