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Valued Member
Canada
279 Posts |
Why does no one hardly ever mention CCCS for grading ?
Are they not as good or what?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1931 Posts |
I think that they just aren't as well known. I have visited their site and though ICCS is considered the be all and end all for grading in Canada I do have to admit that CCCS seems much more professional. Having a website, and proper information available to customers is a huge difference from ICCS where you can only call and hope to get an answer.
I can't comment on the consistency or accuracy of their grades as I have not sent anything in. The webiste is nice though.
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New Member
Canada
45 Posts |
I believe CCCS is far superior to collectors when compared to ICCS. Here is why I belive this A) CCCS is accountable on-line to it's customers, ICCS is not B)CCCS has taken steps (thru progression) to protect collectors from fraud/holder tampering ICCS has done nothing. C) Grading is at par between CCCS and ICCS. The stability in numismatics has been shaken by holder tampering as well as holder counterfeiting, BOTH ICCS, Not CCCS. Yes, I concede that the resale value of ICCS Cert. coins is higher, that is just (in my opinion) the reflex action of a buying public that turns a blind eye to change, even if the change is for the better. CCCS is accountable, trust worthy and approachable. As with PCGS in the USA, they answer to the customer/collector, not the dealer. Just my thoughts.
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Valued Member
 Canada
279 Posts |
And they are much appreciated
Cheers
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5318 Posts |
Just my .02, but I see ICCS-graded coins selling faster on ebay than other TPGs (except perhaps the PCGS/NGC) |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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CCCS is great,for all the reasons as stated by Gopher,plus they have nice hard slabs available.I have been pleased with their grading,definitely on par with ICCS,and will be sending them another batch of 50 when I have more time in the fall.The only downside is that presently ICCS coins are more saleable,but I feel this will change in the long run as Canadian collectors want a more accountable and progressive Canadian TPG service. P.S. CCCS also recognises,and will slab,more varieties than ICCS, Edited by DBM
06/13/2009 11:40 am
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Valued Member
Canada
50 Posts |
I have close to 800 graded coins. I see no difference between the grading abilities of both firms. I agree CCCS grades more varieties. However CCCS graded coins get less in the market than ICCS. Solution. Buy the CCCS graded and resubmit to ICCS :))
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New Member
Canada
45 Posts |
Silly, that just seems silly......LOLOL CCCS needs to be recognized for the quality they deserve, I think you attempted to do that, but then blew it away with the final comment. ICCS could care less about a collector. Only making money for retirement. I have called ICCS for a cert. number varification of date and denomination..... I was told.....Not right now............ Gee, I do not buy sell or trade in ICCS. My loss, maybe! You bet. But, my aires will know that the CCCS coins I own are legit, accountable and saleable for 20 years. Can you say that about ICCS in 5 years? HMMMMMMMMM Just a thought.
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Valued Member
Canada
166 Posts |
Hello,
People I trust say that both CCCS and ICCS grade by relatively similar, conservative Canadian standards. CCCS has the same basic problem as ICCS, it is essentially a one man (grading) operation, with all that implies. It has the additional problem that the man grading at CCCS is a major auctioneer and his auctions are loaded with coins he grades.
ICCS is like PCGS + NGC is to the US. It takes years to gain that level of reputation. CCCS may make it, it may not. It will be several more years before that is clear.
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Valued Member
Canada
50 Posts |
If I am not mistaken has not ICCS been in business since the 80s?
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Valued Member
197 Posts |
New to this site for posts, but extremely active Canadian collector that posts almost exclusively on the Canadian Coin Reference Site (CCRS). I think that CCCS will attain the same level of acceptance (and resale value) that has been ICCS's forte for years. For all the reasons mentioned above .... slab quality, accountability, website, varieties, etc ... and Louis is just a really conscientious honest guy who is trying to better and standardize the Canadian grading regimen. I think that he is now even more conservative than ICCS (where I have seen inklings of grading creep)
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts |
well said okla and welcome!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1248 Posts |
..........where I have seen inklings of grading creep
can you please explain?
am not sure what you actually mean..
I think I know what you mean...BUT, just want to be sure, as I am about to submit a coin for the 4th time to them. so far 3 grades.
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Valued Member
United States
493 Posts |
>>>>I am about to submit a coin for the 4th time to them. so far 3 grades.<<<<<
hhbkiddo,
Are your grades trending up?
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Valued Member
197 Posts |
Grading creep is an XF-40 10 years ago that's now an AU. It's the same as school grading creep, where an 80 used to be the absolute bottom of the B's and now is an A here in Canada.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1051 Posts |
What CCCS needs (IMO) is to get some rare, valuable, and sought after coins in their holders, and on the market. Right now all I'm seeing is run-of-the-mill type stuff that isn't drawing much attention.
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Posted 06/12/2009 11:17 pm
